AMD Bulldozer Thread

[hurleybird]

Double the transistors, 2 more cores, a metric ton of cache, and a more advanced process... and AMD is perhaps just slightly ahead of their previous flagship. I guess they are completely incompetent after all.

[vinta]

[blindbox]

They could've just die-shrunk an x4 and slap two together, MCM style. Hell, I'd buy it.

[kuroikenshi]

And no FX processors available here in France ...

Maybe that's how Dirk felt when he could see what was coming

[K404]

Despite Monstru not being all that bothered about all the negative comments, I do still think a few people owe apologies.

I wonder if XS admin would be interested in a sayaa multi-quote with all the worst offenders.

I was hoping for so much more from AMD.... so so much much more.

I would like to see some 3DMark at high MHz though.... but also with a power meter plugged in

[Hondacity]

Despite Monstru not being all that bothered about all the negative comments, I do still think a few people owe apologies.

I wonder if XS admin would be interested in a sayaa multi-quote with all the worst offenders.

I was hoping for so much more from AMD.... so so much much more.

I would like to see some 3DMark at high MHz though.... but also with a power meter plugged in

ask for a video too(explosive), and ocp disabled gigabyte boards

[kuroikenshi]

And no FX processors available here in France ...

Maybe that's how Dirk felt when he could see what was coming

[K404]

Hey bro You remember that video from a million years ago where some guy in his garage OC'd a Netburst, then removed the cooler under power?

The CPU hit the roof, the mobo had a hole blown in it (CPU socket? What CPU socket??)

Maybe it's time that film got a 2011 reboot, featuring AMD

[Mech0z]

I pretty disappointed by performance, but I see A LOT of room for improvement

This is the first large die 32nm cpu? (Process could improve)
This is a whole new architecture (It should be easier to improve that now that they actual samples?)
Thuban could not really be expanded more without breaking thermal limits so a new architecture was needed
There is a big difference between software that can utilize this arcitecture, if software is optimized for it it should perform well, however having a marketshare like AMD gives little reason for software developers to create special software for them.

I hope this is true, but I dont know enough about the stuff to be certain

Hey bro You remember that video from a million years ago where some guy in his garage OC'd a Netburst, then removed the cooler under power?

The CPU hit the roof, the mobo had a hole blown in it (CPU socket? What CPU socket??)

Maybe it's time that film got a 2011 reboot, featuring AMD

This one?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...04704265757054

[Hondacity]

Hey bro You remember that video from a million years ago where some guy in his garage OC'd a Netburst, then removed the cooler under power?

The CPU hit the roof, the mobo had a hole blown in it (CPU socket? What CPU socket??)

Maybe it's time that film got a 2011 reboot, featuring AMD

hahahahhah, i remember that..at first i was in total "Belief" but this time its totally possible hahahahha

[Pt1t]

tu veux le miens :p

[K404]

This one?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...04704265757054

That does look like it, I was sure it was a Netburst though. Ah well... thanks for posting it up!!

[radier]

That was a fake:

[duron]

...did this one got lost along the way?

Pros:

Incredible Multi Threaded Performance
Excellent Price/Performance Ratio
Smooth Working Turbo Core For Speed Boost
Dual Turbo Modes For Increased Boost In Lightly Threaded Apps
Maintains Excellent Temps At Stock Speeds
Black Edition With Unlocked Multiplier
Eight Physical Cores
Easily Achieves High Overclocks
Excellent OC Performance Scaling
Easily Tweaked With AOD For Maximum Performance

Cons:

Performance In Single Threaded Apps Not On Par With Multithreaded

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/...13752?start=23

[duron]

**Double Post Bug**

[freeloader]

I guess "FX" stands for "Xtremely Fuc***". LOL.

No one would seriously run this chip for 24/7 (Folding@Home, WCG, etc...) at it's current power consumption. I figured the FX would be 10% slower than a comparable Intel system, I was wrong. The IPC difference is closer to 20%.
I'll keep my current 955@4Ghz over a BD setup anyday.

AMD, you had better not cancel production of the Phenom II line because if you do, then you will definitely not have anything to compete with Intel. It's no wonder Chew said he was only sticking around until BD is here then vanishing like a ghost.

[cold2010]

[Mech0z]

Has this anything to do with Bulldozer?

[Chrono Detector]

So those leaked benchmarks were all true, Bulldozer is a disappointment and a major dud. I can't believe how poorly it performs in gaming, and the i7 2600K is pretty much ahead in most benchmarks if not all. Doesn't look like I will be upgrading my 955 rig after all.

[bamtan2]

I'm still trying to make sense of what I'm seeing here, and what Dave said. I just don't get it, I've got to be missing something.

yeah, you are. you missed it being delayed 10+ times over 4 years. you missed the GF foundry being the worst at every measure. you missed the CEO getting fired. you missed every leaked benchmark that showed bulldozer sucking.

yes, people missed a lot. maybe this is what you should read next: "in the face of clear evidence to suggest to the contrary, why do some people remain so optimistic about the future?" http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-1...c-reality.html

[SMTB1963]

I guess the jury's still out on the architecture, but this manifestation of it makes me sad...

Guess I should pick up a 2600k while they are still "only" 315$

Sad, and ANGRY! I don't think it's out of the question that intel will raise prices, unless AMD sells these things for less than their X6 lineup.

OK in the sea of all this stuff, the main thing I'm waiting for is Movieman's WCG testing. I want to see what it does there.

Agreed. I was really hoping to add another AMD system to my crunching mix of 2X AMD 4X intel. But from the looks of things, MM's gonna hafta pulla rabbit out of a hat in order to put some polish on this turd. Here's to hoping there's a software fix for this disaster.

[AKM]

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So by 2013 when Intel will launch Haswell, AMD will be back at Phenom II level IPC.

[Leeghoofd]

I would like to see some 3DMark at high MHz though.... but also with a power meter plugged in

I iwll try to make a sound recording at 6.5Ghz 3D06 like I did a few runs (I gave up as I was nowhere close to a SB at 5.6, about 4K difference in score)... it's scary during the CPU test... seems something is gonna pop sometime soon... even at 6.3ghz wprime and co was freaky :p

I can only recommend the high end 990FX boards for Ocing this CPU... even for daily clocks it needs loads of powaaaaaa

[AKM]

And overclocking this thing is utterly useless witch such a horrendous power consumption.

[K404]

I iwll try to make a sound recording at 6.5Ghz 3D06 like I did a few runs (I gave up as I was nowhere close to a SB at 5.6, about 4K difference in score)... it's scary during the CPU test... seems something is gonna pop sometime soon... even at 6.3ghz wprime and co was freaky :p

I can only recommend the high end 990FX boards for Ocing this CPU... even for daily clocks it needs loads of powaaaaaa

So if a PWM and pot can handle at least 7GHz (lol) AMD should be in the zone or at least be very close to it?