Pass me some of what you are smokin' ...Originally Posted by Sentential
Pass me some of what you are smokin' ...
One hundred years from now It won't matter
What kind of car I drove What kind of house I lived in
How much money I had in the bank Nor what my cloths looked like.... But The world may be a little better Because, I was important In the life of a child.
-- from "Within My Power" by Forest Witcraft
(First off, I want to apologize in advance if the following comments cause anyone to get upset.)
Ouch. If these early benchmarks are accurate, this is going to make Fermi's launch look good. Seriously though... there were a lot of signs that were clear as day pointing to Bulldozer being a flop. The price was way too low for the hyped performance claims, combined with the delays, repeated yield problems, and the deafening silence from AMD and their cheerleaders like Charlie over at "rarely-accurate". Then top it off with the arrogance in naming it Bulldozer, implying it's going to 'bury the competition'.... and you have a perfect storm.
As expected, many of you are having a hard time dealing with being let down, and as SKYMTL mentioned... the 5 stages of grieving are clearly illustrated in this thread.
This is the one and only post i'll make poking fun at the fanboys even though it would be fun to flood these threads with bulldozer jokes and photochopped images like many here did a couple years ago. Oh the irony.
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JF-AMD / Hans de Vries / informal posting: IPC increases!!!!!!! How many times did I tell you!!!
terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
.....}
until (12th October 2011)
Well, i do agnowledge that Zambezi is litlebit failure compared what we expected but this arch have alot to tweak before we can say final word if its going to be alot of faster in form of Piledriver, there aint even final bios's released for Zambezi yet.
Piledriver will indeed show true power of Bulldozer arch, it can be equal or faster than Zambezi it can even suprice us but we dont know till Piledriver gets released, server part is really where amd gets most of its income at the moment.
I know, i know. I was bit too optimistic at that time about preformance, what is true is that i will still be buying Zambezi cpu's only due its Box, i want still one for candy, one for lollipops and one for screws.
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lol, I cannot believe your sig actually came true.....
So it looks like Terrance was right. The more we post about it, the more ipc decreases
It still has best multi-threaded performance but crappy at single-threaded performance.
Oh yeah, im bit too optimistic at times
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14 x 4 TB WD RE4 in RAID10+2Spare
4 x Corsair AX1200
::: Basement DataCenter :::
[*] Fibreoptic connection from operators core network
[*] Dell PowerConnect 2848 Ethernet Switch [*] Network Security Devices by Cisco
[*] Dell EqualLogic PS6500E 96Tb iSCSI SAN (40 2Tb Drives + 8 Spare Drives, Raid10+Spare Configuration, 40Tb fail safe storage)
[*] Additional SAN machines with FusionIO ioDrive Octal's (4 total Octals).
[*] 10 x Dual Xeon X5680, 12Gb DDR3, 2x100Gb Vertex 2 Pro Raid1 [*] 4 x Quad Xeon E7-4870, 96Gb DDR3, 2x100Gb Vertex 2 Pro Raid1
[*] Monster UPS unit incase power grid failure backed up by diesel powered generator.
i thought you said you had one when you posted that about beating the 2600K and 990x? were you just speaking from opinion?It still has best multi-threaded performance but crappy at single-threaded performance.
Oh yeah, im bit too optimistic at times
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So much for the bulldozer thread from a few weeks back when movieman hyped up the fx like it was way faster than what intel is offering. I had a feeling it was smoke and mirrors
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FX8120 is not beating i5 2500 even in many highly MT apps, Game performance comparisons are not even funny
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JF-AMD / Hans de Vries / informal posting: IPC increases!!!!!!! How many times did I tell you!!!
terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
.....}
until (12th October 2011)
I'd give him a 10 for that epic faceplant.
Why do you always have to bring two sockets into everything?Because a one socket system is only 1/2 a system..
You got two balls don't you?
I rest my case!
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Ouch...
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Considering AMD has only 5.5% of the Server CPU market, I doubt that segment is whats keeping them afloat.
Oh... and there's this:
Intel’s server processor profit margins were 50% in 2009, versus 10% for AMD.
"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government"
-- Alexander Hamilton
Those look suspiciously like the benches from 'the one who we shall not name'....
One hundred years from now It won't matter
What kind of car I drove What kind of house I lived in
How much money I had in the bank Nor what my cloths looked like.... But The world may be a little better Because, I was important In the life of a child.
-- from "Within My Power" by Forest Witcraft
So Bulldozer starts to show its potential in WinRAR and Photoshop benches.. which is exactly what one should expect with 8 *integer* cores. Parallel integer workloads (think: SERVER) is where this thing will shine. (And probably special HPC apps that are designed for FMAC4).
That's probably why they released it as "FX", unlocked, processors for consumers. Since it's mainly fun for overclockers. Low IPC and only 4 FP cores isn't great for PI and Cinebench
Whelp, this is thing is possibly one of the worst releases this year. If current reviews are an indication.
At least we know why JF-AMD has been absent! LOL!
What a surprise...our results were 100% accurate (...again), the BIOS version was good, the silicone version was good, and the numbers that other got were exactly the same as anybody else.... Or, as Vr-Zone said...
Clock for clock in multithreading heavy scenarios the FX-8150 is typically behind the quad core i7-2600K by ~20%, and in single-threaded workloads it gets totally annihilated. Overclocking was also nothing to shout about, as it needed a significant voltage bump to even reach a (prime stable) 4.7GHz on noisy air. Bluntly, the performance we are seeing from the 8-core FX-8150 today is only marginally better than last year's high end quad core Intel i7 "Nehelam" and AMD's own Phenom II "Thuban" 6-core offerings, and definitely not a "i7-990X killer" as hyped over the last few months. No disrespect intended to the record holders but disabling cores to achieve high frequencies is just going to confuse unsuspecting buyers and split-second CPU-Z screenshots is not a measure of true stability.
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Didnt question the results, but certainly question AMDs future for desktop/workstation segment.... Oh and their marketing, 0 overclocking samples and 1 press samples for this country, thumbs up, they really did count on success..
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