Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
I want to draw everyone's attention to the fact that the patch people are suddenly talking about is for Linux ONLY and it WILL NOT address Windows-based performance. In addition, the Linux community has determined the "patch" itself is pretty much a hack job that could negatively impact system stability and in-app performance. So, it should not even be discussed at length at this point in time.
as I understand it, theres a patch for windows either incoming or already in the hands of some testers.

and I for one couldnt give less of a about what the Linux community "determined", I quit with desktop linux years back after I finnely realised that it wasnt going anywhere, they refuse to support a unified audio/sound fraimwork, linux lacks a stable driver abi/api and ties drivers closely with the kernal so a small kernal patch can break your drivers....I could go on and on, but no need, I gave up on linux as a desktop OS quite a while back and have been happier since, as I prefer to use my computer rather then having to recompile the kernal with patches added/removed for hours/days on end to find what broke my video/audio/nic drivers.
oh yeah, and on windows/osx/bsd no dependency hell to deal with, no needing 3 versions of gtk installed because some idiot app dev decided to tie his/her app to a specific gtk version and hasnt bothered to updated to support newer gtk....

bah!!!


I have to say a few things about other comments about marketing and how "normal people" will see 8 cores being slower then 4 cores as fail....

Normal "Joe Sixpack" type users have no bloody idea about how a chip preforms, they buy what appears to be the best value, having worked in PC sales over the years, most of them dont even really care if its intel/amd/via/wtfe they only care that it looks like a good deal, hence the p4 sold so well despite it being so HOT and SLOW.

the fact is, most users are FAR FAR different from the users of this and other tech forums, they got no idea whats really in their computer, they just know what the sales people told them.

example: I recently had a friend of the family ask me to look at his computer, he bought it a few months ago and was told it was "Really fast" I get over there and its low end i3 prebuild with a 1gb gf210 and 2gb of VERY slow ram, he thinks its fast, because thats what he was told, well i cleaned off the preinstalled crapware and tweaked what i could to get it to run better, told him he needed to order ram and a videocard minimum if he wanted to play WoW on the 27" screen they sold him (1080p), He actually got mad at me for telling him this because they guys at the store told him it would game great and was fast...

i got him to come over to my house and try my system, he was quite mad when he found my system to be like lightning to his systems turtles stampeding thru peanut butter in January....

note: this office system im on smokes his, and its just a 9650@2.7 and 8gb ddr2 with a 8800gts512......

so he ordered the ram and gpu (he got a great deal on a 5770, under 80bucks on sale), I installed it for him, he was shocked how much better windows ran, let alone wow, now hes talking about cpu upgrades....on a system thats less then a year old that some smuck at bestbuy sold him to play wow on...ROFL......(think im gonna tell him to just get a board/cpu combo and a psu, the case is nice, just really bad liteon psu and horrible motherboard...)

meh, long story short, most users are idiots you could give a system running windows 8 on arm and as long as they could run ms office and IE they would be happy and not know the dif between that and their x86 system....


as to this dozer situation, I will wait and see how things flush out, i mean its not that big a deal to wait a bit and see if the windows patch shows up and boosts perf and to see how BD actually preforms.

I have little to no use for cinbench, its compiled with ICC using commands that make it use the intel cpu dispatcher, meaning AMD chips automatically get slower code paths then intels.