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[radaja]

You need 10 posts for that Corescn site's CPU section, and I'm not in the mood to spam 10 posts in Chinese right now

i just spent the last hour trying to register and finally got it done,but now it takes me forever to even make one post
having to switch between the original page and google translate to do the verifications and capcha's for a post is insane

[haylui]

i just spent the last hour trying to register and finally got it done,but now it takes me forever to even make one post
having to switch between the original page and google translate to do the verifications and capcha's for a post is insane

i saw you there
you told the people that you're come form USA and with a difficult to understand job position?

[haylui]

FX-4170 SuperPI


Fritz Chess benchmark


3DMark Vantage


AIDA 64


WPrime


7zip


Cinebench R11.5

[mzs_biteme]

Cinebench R11.5

WTF!!!!!! Why CB shows 4.22GHz FX4170 faster than 4.22GHz 8150??????

[haylui]

do you think you guys need the hardware setup for the FX-4170 benchmark?

Motherboard: Asus CrossFire V
Bios ver: 0811
Memory: Kingmax DDR3 2400 (lower to 1866)
Display card: MSI 5970
HDD: OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G
OS: Windows 7 64bit SP1

[Evantaur]

WTF!!!!!! Why CB shows 4.22GHz FX4170 faster than 4.22GHz 8150??????

either that or it's a fake

[Dirk Diggler]

WTF!!!!!! Why CB shows 4.22GHz FX4170 faster than 4.22GHz 8150??????

Either its fake or the rest of the 8*** series were not as optimized as they shouldve been eg (latest bios etc)

[Baam]

Well new AGESA code BIOS was released today by most of the motherboard manufacturers. Might need to retest.

[dess]

WTF!!!!!! Why CB shows 4.22GHz FX4170 faster than 4.22GHz 8150??????

1. Probably the all-cores-on or the half-the-modules-on turbo could be activated on 4170. On the 8150, those were perhaps disabled or could not be activated.
2. Both have 8 MB L3 cache -> 1 MB/core for 8150, 2 MB/core for 4150.
3. BIOS (perhaps).

does this superpi mean anything? my 5 year old core 2 duo with ddr2 does 1M in 25s.

It uses a very ancient x87 code from the 90's, optimized for Intel.

TDP is thermal design power, has nothing to do with power the chip pulls from the board but the heat it gives off.

Nothing to do? 99% of energy pulled will turn into heat in the CPU. (The remaining 1% will leave on the I/O lines.) Elementary physics, boy!

Therefore, a 125w chip should run about as hot as any other 125w chip assuming they are same architecture with same thermal sensor...(or you could simply use an external probe, like k-type bead or flat diode)

At stock/original turbo clocks and voltages... With overclocking and over-voltaging the power draw/heat production can increase significantly.
The FX CPU's, being Black Edition, is meant for serious O.C.

BTW, TDP is not at all average power draw/heat production. It's assigned in relation to the maximal power draw/heat production of the chip (*), at stock/original turbo clocks and voltages. Moreover, there are TDP classes. If a given value doesn't fit one class, a higher TDP class will be assigned to the chip. Fx.ex. 95W -> 95 W TDP; 96W -> 125W TDP, for AMD.

(* - For AMD, it's the absolute maximum with the most demanding task. For Intel, it's the average of maximums with a selection of everyday tasks.)

[EniGmA1987]

AIDA 64

Need to see the NB speed on that, cause that is TERRIBLE memory latency
Also, wasnt B2 the not good stepping?

[itsmydamnation]

Need to see the NB speed on that, cause that is TERRIBLE memory latency
Also, wasnt B2 the not good stepping?

doesn't seem that bad, compared to my Nelaham

memory latency is 28% faster then tri channel 1333 7-7-7-20, this is actually really good, because high clock memory sacrifices latency for throughput and its dual vs tri channel.
L1 latency is the same
L2 is 43% slower but 800% bigger cache
L3 33% slower but is exclusive

we new long ago that L2 latency wasn't going to be awesome, but you can hold alot more data on a BD chip then a Nehalem/westmere/SB and avoiding needing to fetch from memory will have a far bigger impact then the difference between cache latencies as hopefully the really important stuff will be in L1.

edit: im running 21/22x180bclock and an OC'd uncore as well(cant remember what its running at)

[bamtan2]

FX-4170 SuperPI

does this superpi mean anything? my 5 year old core 2 duo with ddr2 does 1M in 25s.

[liberato87]

AIDA 64




it seems something is wrong in l1 cache bandwith (write and copy)..

fx 4170
L1 WRITE 23477 mb/s
L1 COPY 47025 mb/s

x4 980
L1 WRITE 65535 mb/s
L1 COPY 87317 mb/s

[radaja]

i saw you there
you told the people that you're come form USA and with a difficult to understand job position?

well thats how it came out but thats not what i was trying to say
i think it should have been,"i forgot to add,i'm from the US so my posts my be difficult to understand"
but thats google translate for ya

[haylui]

well thats how it came out but thats not what i was trying to say
i think it should have been,"i forgot to add,i'm from the US so my posts my be difficult to understand"
but thats google translate for ya

replace "posts" with "replies" that could be better.
lol.