Originally Posted by informal
Ok. Let's see October 12th then. You are forgetting that even if BD can compete with one SB chip it doesn't mean it could compete with the architecture. SB is a relaxed architecture with lots of headroom, if AMD offered resistance then SB would be sold at higher frequencies and LGA 2011 would be hurried out and not like it has been now, BD doesn't seem to be that relaxed at all. And as it looks now, BD is far behind in single threaded performance, if it’s between 2500K and 2600K in a bunch of test which is mostly multithreaded then it’s not on the same level as I see it. You can talk multithreaded all you want but I don’t work with or play Cinebench. I use Firefox and play games. And single thread performance is important there, and yes, games are multithreaded but to a limit.
And, if the 10% in performance increase with Piledriver is frequency based, then it's a sign that we wont see much more than that until the next update in 2013-2014. But if it's IPC they mean, then there's still room for frequency also. And raising performance with frequency is a bit more desperate and a last resort thing to do. You have to agree that it nice to see IPC improvments rather than frequency improvements. The end result might look the same but the later usually has bigger drawbacks like heat, and has much more limited possibilies and is a sign of lack of innovation.
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