Firefox 7.0 is out

[XSAlliN]

I even tried reloading backups of the user profile and it simply does not work. Oh, and leaving the browser open with 10-15 tabs during 24 hours with no user activity = tripling of the used memory up to a point where it chokes other applications down. Awesome.

Have you tried this extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...on/memory-fox/

100 tabs open - around 350 mb with plugin container...







... when memory gets refreshed it can drop to 20 mb then shift back to 350 mb but doesn't grow beyond that wile being in idle so can't affect any external application.

[eXa]

Id rather have 1gb+ memory usage than reload everything on every page i visit frequently (wich is most of them)

[BababooeyHTJ]

Funny you say that, since currently - Opera is Nr. 1 in terms of bloatware wile IE (not really surprising) is the last from this point of view.

Are you talking about hard drive space which I have more than enough of or system resources? I highly doubt that opera uses more system resources than Firefox, it hasn't in my experience.

[Solus Corvus]

Are you talking about hard drive space which I have more than enough of or system resources? I highly doubt that opera uses more system resources than Firefox, it hasn't in my experience.

I was doubtful too. So on another machine I just tried a fresh install of Opera 11.51 and disabled all the extensions on a FF7 update. Surprise:

operaVSfirefox.png

[safan80]

Test with the latest and greatest web browsers

Opera 11.51, Firefox 7, Internet Explorer 9, and Chrome 14.

http://lifehacker.com/5844150/browse...rer-9-and-more

[BababooeyHTJ]

I was doubtful too. So on another machine I just tried a fresh install of Opera 11.51 and disabled all the extensions on a FF7 update. Surprise:

Whats the surprise system resources are about the same until you start opening up more tabs?

[Solus Corvus]

Whats the surprise system resources are about the same until you start opening up more tabs?

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/k...TJ/FFsucks.png

I just tried it again. FF starts out with 9 megs less with only one or a few tabs. By 20 tabs it had passed opera by a few megs. The surprise is that opera is more bloated than expected, or that all this whining about FF taking up too much resources is unjustified. Take your pick.

[BababooeyHTJ]

I just tried it again. FF starts out with 9 megs less with only one or a few tabs. By 20 tabs it had passed opera by a few megs. The surprise is that opera is more bloated than expected, or that all this whining about FF taking up too much resources is unjustified. Take your pick.

I'm whining about Firefox not being stable. I never had a problem with system resources.

I don't know maybe its better now but I'm not going to find out since I'll never use firefox as my primary browser again.

[[XC] Oj101]

I hate to derail the thread, but a recent update to Opera 11.51 has improved my memory usage by an incredible amount. I killed Opera (11.50) with memory usage at 2.3GB and later re-opened it, restoring the session. It first updated to 11.51 and then restored the session, topping out at... 446MB O.o Opera has now been run and abused for two days and memory usage has just passed 900MB (I often have four or five windows open, each with up to 100 tabs - hence the high usage).

[Solus Corvus]

I tested with Opera 11.51. The difference between Opera and FF7 was insignificant.

I'm whining about Firefox not being stable. I never had a problem with system resources.

I don't know maybe its better now but I'm not going to find out since I'll never use firefox as my primary browser again.

Even if all of your old complaints were fixed? Your loss. It is illogical to make a choice of browser based on facts that may not be true in current versions. I'd go with opera or chrome if they surpassed FF in the aspects that are important to me, but they don't so I'll simply check them out again later.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Even if all of your old complaints were fixed? Your loss. It is illogical to make a choice of browser based on facts that may not be true in current versions. I'd go with opera or chrome if they surpassed FF in the aspects that are important to me, but they don't so I'll simply check them out again later.

Opera works just fine out of the box, and other than a couple of releases over the years has never caused me any issues. I can't say that about Firefox and I'm not about to check back every few months when there are other options out there. Firefox is way over rated.

[Solus Corvus]

Of course that's your prerogative. I can understand not wanting to change your browsing environment every few months. But I haven't had crashing problems in years. Refusing to look at competitive products EVER makes about as much sense as "I'm never buying from company X" even if the market situation changes completely.

[M.Beier]

Anyone mind explaining me exactly what is going on here?
Because to me, it looks like 1x firefox, with 1 tab, is eating up 850MB, please tell me what you see.... I use the version of which the topic is about, yes

[Solus Corvus]

What plugins do you have installed?

[RaZz!]

Anyone mind explaining me exactly what is going on here?
Because to me, it looks like 1x firefox, with 1 tab, is eating up 850MB, please tell me what you see.... I use the version of which the topic is about, yes

125 processes. what the f

i have no answer for your ff's high memory footprint, but you should definately revise your processes even if i'm multitasking like a boss and using loads of programs, i never exceed 70-80 processes.
while doing every day work i'm only at 60 processes.

[STEvil]

Just installed FF8. On this page with Xnews in a second tab FF8 is using 267mb plus 32mb for the plugin container. Only addons are adblock and firebug.

[M.Beier]

What plugins do you have installed?

None

[M.Beier]

125 processes. what the f

i have no answer for your ff's high memory footprint, but you should definately revise your processes even if i'm multitasking like a boss and using loads of programs, i never exceed 70-80 processes.
while doing every day work i'm only at 60 processes.

Check IKEA for furniture for 3 rooms (kitchen, bedroom,, living room), Internet options in a certain area, and then the other daily stuff, that is a relatively low count for me, I must admit 2x8GB will be USEFUL for my laptop

EDIT; Each tab in chrome appears as a process.

[[XC] Oj101]

The new Opera doesn't clear memory after closing tabs :/ This is with three tabs open after closing 137:

[Solus Corvus]

None

Something is probably wrong with your install or config. You could try renaming or deleting your FF user profile directory to see if it's the old config somehow messing things up.

EDIT; Each tab in chrome appears as a process.

This is among the reasons that chrome is the most memory intensive of the current browsers. There really isn't any need for separate processes when separate threads would suffice.

Just installed FF8. On this page with Xnews in a second tab FF8 is using 267mb plus 32mb for the plugin container. Only addons are adblock and firebug.

Why 8 and not 9 or 10?

[TheBlueChanell]

Been using the Aurora Channels for months now. I think I'm up to 9.0a2 and it just keeps getting better and better. Every release seems to become more stable, much quicker and sometimes they add nice features.

[M.Beier]

Something is probably wrong with your install or config. You could try renaming or deleting your FF user profile directory to see if it's the old config somehow messing things up.

Nope, same on all my machines
There was 7x hotmail tabs open before, closed 6, and waited for clearing mem, but only ~120MB was cleared, you can TWEAK FF, but OUT OF THE BOX, IT SUCKS for daily usage, it is souly optimized to do well in benches that are being performed.

This is among the reasons that chrome is the most memory intensive of the current browsers. There really isn't any need for separate processes when separate threads would suffice.

I think it is really nice, makes it so much easier to kill 1 instance when some site has a crappy popup with malware... Without loosing all the data that you have open in the browser...
*Sure, you can get ADD ON / EXTENSION to fix this easily.... But chrome is targeted, just like IE, to be a SOLID product FROM FRESH INSTALLED, not that like FF, that you have to waste alot of time, to customize - making the FF like you have it, takes longer time then doing a linux server..

[blindbox]

125 processes. what the f

i have no answer for your ff's high memory footprint, but you should definately revise your processes even if i'm multitasking like a boss and using loads of programs, i never exceed 70-80 processes.
while doing every day work i'm only at 60 processes.

I think I've reached 200 before. I had the whole taskbar full on a 1080p screen. It just happens sometimes, when you run a game, a cad software, word, excel, calc, bunch of notepads (my way of placing notes so that i don't forget) and virtualbox, all at the same time.

I'm at 91 processes at the moment and that's pretty normal.

However, I can confidently say that after I upgraded from 4 GB RAM to 8 GB RAM, I got extra abusive.

[Solus Corvus]

Nope, same on all my machines
There was 7x hotmail tabs open before, closed 6, and waited for clearing mem, but only ~120MB was cleared, you can TWEAK FF, but OUT OF THE BOX, IT SUCKS for daily usage, it is souly optimized to do well in benches that are being performed.

I don't know what the issue is with your FF7. But in my own testing, the review I linked, and every other review I could find (these two: 1, 2) FF7 has less memory usage than Chrome and is about on par with Opera. I only passed what yours is using after opening 200 tabs.

I think it is really nice, makes it so much easier to kill 1 instance when some site has a crappy popup with malware... Without loosing all the data that you have open in the browser...
*Sure, you can get ADD ON / EXTENSION to fix this easily.... But chrome is targeted, just like IE, to be a SOLID product FROM FRESH INSTALLED, not that like FF, that you have to waste alot of time, to customize - making the FF like you have it, takes longer time then doing a linux server..

I just have to LOL at this statement. Do you regularly have problems with crappy sites, malware, losing data, and popups? I don't. I run NoScript and Adblock and have session restore. I don't remember the last time a bad site caused me to lose data, but if I accidentally closed the window or something I can open it right back up and continue right from where I was. Popups? Malware? Your kidding, right?

And of course you can spend more time customizing FF. There is more about it that you can customize. But you don't HAVE to spend a lot of time doing it. I set my config back in FF3 and have hardly touched it since.

[M.Beier]

I just have to LOL at this statement.

And this is exactly why it is pointless to have a discussion with you