Firefox 7.0 is out

[Musho]

Hmmm, there seems to be a bug with Firefox 7. When I right-click a link and select to open it in a new tab, it opens it in a new windows instead... Anyone else with the same problem?

Edit: Hmm, restarting Firefox fixed the problem. Weird.

[XSAlliN]

Frankly, I've never got what people see in Opera. Maybe a little more speed on slow machines and that's about it.

Back when FF was was barley released and IE & Netscape were the most used browser - Opera was an interesting alternative (was even commercial at that time)... and not just then, was among the best for years to come (along with MyE2 - a IE based browser). Firefox got better with version 2 - and cause of extensions, started to gain more popularity than Opera... and when i talk about popularity, I'm referring to those who had more knowledge in terms of PC usage - cause beyond that IE was covering more than 80% of those using a PC (and those were the worst days of IE).

[IFMU]

Newsflash, RAM is cheap. Go install 12GB + and stop whining!

that's because you know, everyone's made of money.....

[god_43]

that's because you know, everyone's made of money.....

lol don't you know...i crap money, if you want a $50; just let me know....its chilli night!


;p.

[IFMU]

lol don't you know...i crap money, if you want a $50; just let me know....its chilli night!


;p.

lmao if that's the case then gimmie a few bucks, im outta smokes!

[god_43]

you can in about:config.
browser.urlbar.trimURLs
set to false.

oh wow thanks ysy!

[Olivon]

Chrome is really damn fast !

[Solus Corvus]

I keep an eye to the commits posted to the mercurial repository from where the nightlies are built (mozilla-central), and in more than one occasion i found a backout of a change that literally broke the whole thing. If it happens that the latest nightly build was made before that backout was committed, you'd be stuck with a broken build until the following day (Unless you deal with it manually).
That's why i don't use nightlies. There's a considerable chance they may not work right, and that's not a good thing for a main browser.

Before this new development scheme i used to run the betas and release candidates for FF3.5 up to FF4, which are built after some QA unlike the nightlies. Nowadays i simply wait for each final release since they are coming every two months or so...

I certainly don't think auto updating with nightlies is a good idea for everyone. But with a little experimentation it is easy to find a good nightly that actually works better/faster/etc than release versions. It's what my friend has been doing for years, find the "perfect" nightly and stick with it for a few months. I just auto update and roll back manually to a known good ver if something breaks. But I don't have to do that very often at all.

Back when FF was was barley released and IE & Netscape were the most used browser - Opera was an interesting alternative (was even commercial at that time)... and not just then, was among the best for years to come (along with MyE2 - a IE based browser). Firefox got better with version 2 - and cause of extensions, started to gain more popularity than Opera... and when i talk about popularity, I'm referring to those who had more knowledge in terms of PC usage - cause beyond that IE was covering more than 80% of those using a PC (and those were the worst days of IE).

Sure, FF was rough back then. But I can't really see the point now, since about v3.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Sure, FF was rough back then. But I can't really see the point now, since about v3.

Even V3 was buggy. FF2 was just a mess. On more than one pc it used to crash on me. I switched to Opera and other than a couple of releases I never had a serious issue. I even preferred IE8 to FF2 and 3.

[Sparky]

Even V3 was buggy. FF2 was just a mess. On more than one pc it used to crash on me. I switched to Opera and other than a couple of releases I never had a serious issue. I even preferred IE8 to FF2 and 3.

[Solus Corvus]

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...eIfSerious.jpg

LOL, really.

FF2 and early 3 were rough, but they were never so bad that I got desperate enough to flee to IE, or Opera for that matter. Maybe it was just how I used the browser, but with how unstable people are describing FF I'm inclined to think some of the problems were operator error. Personally, I'd test out new nightlies on a regular basis and when I found a "keeper" I'd run it as my main for a few weeks or months. Often the good nightlies were more stable, faster, and better than the releases in those days.

But those were the old days. Lately I have had zero stability issues with the release versions. I haven't had a stable release crash on me for a really long time (I don't even remember the last time). And the nightlies have gotten to the point where I auto update them and only rollback if there is a problem, which isn't often.

[antiacid]

the memory leaks, I can (mostly) handle. What I can't handle is when I have 3 tab groups of 20+ tabs in each, split on 2 physical monitors and then I open a new tab that's a graph and then close the groups before that tab, the entire frickin' "pinned tabs" and previous browser history and tab groups all vanish. It has happened twice to me so far since FF4. The next time it happens, I will simply stop using firefox for ever. There's no excuse for ing over people's workflow at critical times. Until then, I'll keep the hybrid chrome/ff setup to best utilize each browser.

[Sparky]

....

I have no idea what the heck you just complained about.

[XSAlliN]

There is no room for QQ when it comes to free products - especially if you have other alternatives around.... I never liked IE, but i found Netscape to be good alternative for the first years of internet browsing, later i found Opera and was good breath of fresh air having a modern look, changeable skins and modular options - few years latter felt kinda heavy as it had to much bloatware implemented in it and at that time MyIE2 was just what i needed (tried even FF but felt at about the same level with Netscape)... Later, MyE2 was renamed to Maxthon with a new version and that also got some extra bloatware which wasn't up to my taste anymore so i moved back to Opera - but had some problems with certain sites not being displayed right on Opera (being made with IE in mind) and i started trying all available browsers and Firefox seemed to be the best choice - i found extensions that covered options i got used to from MyE2 like adblock and didn't had any problems with the pages i visited (not being displayed correctly). I used FF for next years to come as my main browser, but i also tried/try the alternatives from time to time and can't say i found a better option (definitely not Chrome - which lost my trust after realizing that - they don't care about my privacy).

[Tao~]

Dunno but Firefox 3.5 and 3.6 were probably the best firefox browsers for me - in terms of stability and performance. 2 was OK, 3 was very buggy.

[RaZz!]

....

I have no idea what the heck you just complained about.

me neither. sounds complicated though

[XSAlliN]

My Firefox runs so slow... feels like forever waiting for a page to open...

[IFMU]

[eBoy0]

Just received this in an email from crucial, seems pretty interesting, not sure if the results are biased to convince you to buy more memory as this was the reason for the email I suppose, but good to see the differences in memory consumption.
http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Standard...rSeptember11US
Edit: not sure why they're using FF 4 in a last week article..?

[FlawleZ]

I've been using Opera for quite a while now. I love it. I've never been impressed with Firefox. I just don't get what people see in it.

This. Both Chrome and FF have become quite bloated. Not impressed with either one at this point. Palemoon seems more efficient but I still rarely use it. I really have no reason to use anything other than Opera and IE occasionally (stupid activeX) unless I'm working on a website.

[Generic user #2]

the memory leaks, I can (mostly) handle. What I can't handle is when I have 3 tab groups of 20+ tabs in each, split on 2 physical monitors and then I open a new tab that's a graph and then close the groups before that tab, the entire frickin' "pinned tabs" and previous browser history and tab groups all vanish. It has happened twice to me so far since FF4. The next time it happens, I will simply stop using firefox for ever. There's no excuse for ing over people's workflow at critical times. Until then, I'll keep the hybrid chrome/ff setup to best utilize each browser.

they call it 'saving your work'. on firefox, they call it session manager.

...and like sparky, i don't actually know what you're talking about. but session manager lets you recover from crashes with your tabs intact.

[XSAlliN]

Just received this in an email from crucial, seems pretty interesting, not sure if the results are biased to convince you to buy more memory as this was the reason for the email I suppose, but good to see the differences in memory consumption.
http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Standard...rSeptember11US
Edit: not sure why they're using FF 4 in a last week article..?

Not that it's not true - but what they did there is called "Marketing". ^^

This. Both Chrome and FF have become quite bloated. Not impressed with either one at this point. Palemoon seems more efficient but I still rarely use it. I really have no reason to use anything other than Opera and IE occasionally (stupid activeX) unless I'm working on a website.

Funny you say that, since currently - Opera is Nr. 1 in terms of bloatware wile IE (not really surprising) is the last from this point of view.

[zalbard]

Another simple test...
A single tab with YouTube video playlist, 90 videos in total (small 240-360p videos, a lot of them only contain a single picture). After 39th video browser takes up 1GB of memory (haven't checked before)...

[antiacid]

....

I have no idea what the heck you just complained about.

basically on specific occasions, closing the "main" firefox windows with your pinned tabs and tab groups before closing an alternate firefox window on a 2nd physical monitor that's displaying a live graph (think forex...) will result in EVERYTHING disappearing, including pinned tabs, tab groups and so on. So now, I have to use 2 browsers to do something I used to do with a single one, lest I want to lose days worth of fluid workflow. I even tried reloading backups of the user profile and it simply does not work. Oh, and leaving the browser open with 10-15 tabs during 24 hours with no user activity = tripling of the used memory up to a point where it chokes other applications down. Awesome.

[eBoy0]

http://techpp.com/2011/09/28/chrome-...nt-comparison/
Published today
I really don't know which browser to go with
I use FF on my desktop while Chrome on my laptop, chrome "feels" faster, but that might be because it's a fairly plain install of W7 Home.
Only thing I seem to enjoy about FF is crash feature that recalls all your websites if u kill the process or pc shuts down, which I'm not sure chrome has?