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[slaveondope]

But I remember that movieman talked about bulldozer like a winner.. I hope he's right.

When Movieman feels it's a winner I take it as doing very well in WCG/F@H. Meaning strong multitread performance with good power consumption.

[muziqaz]

too bad folding@home cannot make use of AVX/FMA4/XOP instructions
But even if without those BD can excel in f@h I will consider it a success.

[SBB]

BD modules scales very well, but there is problem with very very low per module IPC. It is ~30% lower than K10.5.

You know what it reminds me of?

[PatRaceTin]

wow this thread make me check my 1055T is real 6 cores (Haha)

[EniGmA1987]

4 cores with 8 threads, or 8 cores with 8 threads. Who cares, it's not like it will change the price, performance or power consumption depending on what it's called.

With how things are built now, I have just stopped saying "core" and only talk about total processing threads. It is just easier to keep track of then try to explain the differences in the architecture to someone. I tried a couple times, both times the people looked at me like "you lost me at the first sentence"

[FlawleZ]

With how things are built now, I have just stopped saying "core" and only talk about total processing threads. It is just easier to keep track of then try to explain the differences in the architecture to someone. I tried a couple times, both times the people looked at me like "you lost me at the first sentence"

This seems to be the most sensible way of understanding the threaded performance of various CPU's with modern architecture.

[informal]

Please, these slides were obvious fakes already back then! There where several things that was clearly wrong. I told people not to trust them because I knew people would start accusing AMD of lying. I know you just staded that someone lied, but know people are at it again. Look at the post below.

There are no multiple slides there was just one. And no,it was not fake.

[xdan]

Bad news from SB-E side...
Intel will unleash SB-E even the non K i7 3820 at 294$, "oc gear" divider...

Core i7-3820. This is what the processor shows with the reference clock (BCLK) at 95, 100 and 105 MHz, with CPU Multiplier 36x.
Reference Clock Ratio 1.25x
95 MHz * 1.25 * 36x = 4 275 MHz
100 MHz * 1.25 * 36x = 4 500 MHz
105 MHz * 1.25 * 36x = 4 725 MHz

Referens Clock Ratio 1.66x
95 MHz * 1.66 * 36x = 5 677 MHz
100 MHz * 1.66 * 36x = 5 976 MHz
105 MHz * 1.66 * 36x = 6 274 MHz

http://www.nordichardware.com/news/6...-bridge-e.html
I don't care if it is an AMD thread, this is a bad news for BD. Though competition...

[Manicdan]

ok now your just trolling

[hirsch]

ok now your just trolling

Trolling? He is stating facts...

[Manicdan]

Trolling? He is stating facts...

the thread title is zambezi news, not intel news

[Baam]

the thread title is zambezi news, not intel news

I agree. If i wanted to learn about Intel news. I'd head over to the Intel forum.

[undone]

As manufacturing problems are resolved, we expect AMD's latest product cycle to continue to help the firm gain momentum against Intel in the microprocessor market.

http://news.morningstar.com/articlen...aspx?id=396010

the old story ended and new one's just start

[hirsch]

the thread title is zambezi news, not intel news

This thread includes many posts that isn't all about Zambezi/Bulldozer. I'm sure that even you've said or state something that isn't 100% related...

And even if his post includes news about Intel - his own conclusion was that Bulldozer is gonna have a hard time competing against SB-e. I can't see how that's trolling.

[Manicdan]

This thread includes many posts that isn't all about Zambezi/Bulldozer. I'm sure that even you've said or stat anything that isn't 100% related...

And even if his post includes news about Intel - his own conclusion was that Bulldozer is gonna have a hard time competing against SB-e. I can't see how that's trolling.

this thread has MANY posts, +99% are about BD, none should be news about intel or any intel products. there would be more leeway if this was the news section, but its the AMD section, and should ONLY consist of AMD news

[Oese]

You know what it reminds me of?

lol

[hirsch]

this thread has MANY posts, +99% are about BD, none should be news about intel or any intel products. there would be more leeway if this was the news section, but its the AMD section, and should ONLY consist of AMD news

Hahaha, you are so lame.

See it this way. He was showing information to make a conclusion about Bulldozer. Woho, can you see it now? His post was about Bulldozer.

Stop being such a hater, because, haters gonna hate.

[FlanK3r]

What seems good or good?
-OC potential
-multithread performance (renderind in Blender, 3DsMax, Cinebenchs, POV-RAY, some encoding, decompression and compression....)
-power consuming
-price

And whorse?
-looks like single threads apliactions, some games

I think, with this price about 245-250$ will be good product.

[Oliverda]

Bad news from SB-E side...
Intel will unleash SB-E even the non K i7 3820 at 294$, "oc gear" divider...

You're right in the first time our good old troll friend. And you will be able to get the chepest LGA-2011 mobo for $400 maybe. Splendid.

[undone]

You're right in the first time our good old troll friend. And you will be able to get the chepest LGA-2011 mobo for $400 maybe. Splendid.

int-EL now is more like a mobo maker than a chip maker.

[Manicdan]

Hahaha, you are so lame.

See it this way. He was showing information to make a conclusion about Bulldozer. Woho, can you see it now? His post was about Bulldozer.

Stop being such a hater, because, haters gonna hate.

i have nearly 100x higher post count than you, and so i probably have more experience with the rules. i dont hate anyone, im just making sure that people who enjoy coming here still enjoy coming here. posting things that can start up a flame war is the fastest way to get a thread locked, the fermi threads might be a little before your time, although rather new still, and were littered with so much crap that we banned any new fermi threads until real info came out. i fear that BD is getting really close to that level of intolerance and why you dont see many lasting threads about BD in the news. and why the conversation, and practically all the information, is now in the AMD section.

im actually a little confused on how you think im even hating, i only stated my observations. you shouldnt read so much emotion from my posts since i keep a rather logical perspective.

[xdan]

You're right in the first time our good old troll friend. And you will be able to get the chepest LGA-2011 mobo for $400 maybe. Splendid.

I'm sure that there will be some Asrock mb's at 200$. - Extreme6- Extreme 4
And it's not like BD "8 core" will work on a cheap mb 100$ either.
In overclocking it will need at least an 150$, 10phase VRM motheboard.
Memory it's not an issue for SB-E you buy 4*2gb modules.

[Smartidiot89]

i have nearly 100x higher post count than you, and so i probably have more experience with the rules. i dont hate anyone, im just making sure that people who enjoy coming here still enjoy coming here. posting things that can start up a flame war is the fastest way to get a thread locked, the fermi threads might be a little before your time, although rather new still, and were littered with so much crap that we banned any new fermi threads until real info came out. i fear that BD is getting really close to that level of intolerance and why you dont see many lasting threads about BD in the news. and why the conversation, and practically all the information, is now in the AMD section.

im actually a little confused on how you think im even hating, i only stated my observations. you shouldnt read so much emotion from my posts since i keep a rather logical perspective.

Cause post counts matter alot

I'm sure that there will be some Asrock mb's at 200$. - Extreme6- Extreme 4
And it's not like BD "8 core" will work on a cheap mb 100$ either.
In overclocking it will need at least an 150$, 10phase VRM motheboard.
Memory it's not an issue for SB-E you buy 4*2gb modules.

Please, enlighten me from where you found this solid information

Why a 10 phase VRM-motherboard? Last I checked a 4+1 phase motherboard is more then enough for Sandy Bridge cause it's not even a powerhog overclocked. Who says Bulldozer won't be power efficient? Exactly, noone until the reviews are out. But obviously you have fallen for the marketing where bling-features and phases rocks our world

Facts are LGA2011 will be expensive to make due to the high complexity the platform brings. Difference is Sandy Bridge-E and Bulldozer will play in different leagues in pricing, so this comparison really doesn't make much sense to begin with. Also, speaking of price, Core i7-3820 will be priced the same as Core i7-2600K so buying the more expensive LGA2011 doesn't make sense to begin with considering how stripped down/limited it will be. Now we're talking of silly expensive hex-cores for $583 and $999 to really justify the purchase of LGA2011.

EDIT: Let's stay on topic shall we?

[bamtan2]

i have nearly 100x higher post count than you, and so i probably have more experience with the rules. i dont hate anyone, im just making sure that people who enjoy coming here still enjoy coming here. posting things that can start up a flame war is the fastest way to get a thread locked, the fermi threads might be a little before your time, although rather new still, and were littered with so much crap that we banned any new fermi threads until real info came out. i fear that BD is getting really close to that level of intolerance and why you dont see many lasting threads about BD in the news. and why the conversation, and practically all the information, is now in the AMD section.

im actually a little confused on how you think im even hating, i only stated my observations. you shouldnt read so much emotion from my posts since i keep a rather logical perspective.

blah blah blah. you just filled this thread with more irrelevant stuff than he did. look at how many pointless posts you just made. get your priorities straight.

[insurgent]

This is an AMD thread, in the AMD section. Most people here made informed choices to go with AMD, it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks. Apparently, some people's lives are so pathetic they get their kicks challenging other people's choices. I buy it with my own money, I am happy with it.. off.