AMD Zambezi news, info, fans !

[Olivon]

Hmm do you have a source link for that? The underlying slide seems very basic, and I didn't see it @DH previously.

Donanimhaber has pulled out this article

[undone]

crap delayed till thanksgiving now! lol jk

man i feel like a kid on xmas the wait is killin me

Seems my former speculation is correct LOL. the NDA lifting maybe delayed to Nov, and final shipment would be at late Oct or early Nov.

AMD is somewhat intentionally scheduled zambezi to the same timeframe of SB-E, even at the same day is not impossible.

[Assimilator87]

Absolute failure?? Every other post seems to be saying this... And thats far from the truth.

If these figures and prices are true along with the overclocking advantage, there will be many people thinking twice before buying a "brand name" chip for more.

Thuban performance would be an absolute failure. I would honestly like to hear the reasoning behind the failure comments. (No flamming intended)

Let me put it this way. There's no way those benchmarks are right. I'm not familiar with all of them, but I know for sure that POV Ray and X264 Pass 2 scale extremely well with more cores. In very well threaded applications, Thuban will just about match Intel's quad cores. In those two particular benchmarks, they're showing Zambezi performing slightly worse than Sandy Bridge. That's an octa core running slower than a quad core with almost half the die size. All I want out of Zambezi is to perform slightly better than Gulftown.

[freeloader]

Seems my former speculation is correct LOL. the NDA lifting maybe delayed to Nov, and final shipment would be at late Oct or early Nov.

AMD is somewhat intentionally scheduled zambezi to the same timeframe of SB-E, even at the same day is not impossible.

If they don't actually start shipping product until the end of Oct or early Nov, then we won't see BD (retail anyhow) until mid December/January 2012.

[undone]

If they don't actually start shipping product until the end of Oct or early Nov, then we won't see BD (retail anyhow) until mid December/January 2012.

yep further delay is not fresh thing then, but the rumored Oct.12 is becoming history.

[-Boris-]

crap delayed till thanksgiving now! lol jk

man i feel like a kid on xmas the wait is killin me

Where did they say that? They said both Sandy Bridge-e and Bulldozer should be out by thanks giving so a comparision whould be possible then. He did not say that Bulldozer wouldn't be released even earlier than that. If Bulldozer is released October 12th and SB-e at thanksgiving then his statement is correct.

troller is trolling. relax buddy

No one has been able to point out where I am wrong. If you want to call me a troll then you should be able to point out what's wrong with my post.

[Walrus74]

Where did they say that? They said both Sandy Bridge-e and Bulldozer should be out by thanks giving so a comparision whould be possible then. He did not say that Bulldozer wouldn't be released even earlier than that. If Bulldozer is released October 12th and SB-e at thanksgiving then his statement is correct.

Exactly my thoughts! ^__^

[Dirk Diggler]

X264 Bulldozer Development http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...46#post1528746

[Oliverda]

crap delayed till thanksgiving now! lol jk

false

[PerryR]

And that's against mid-end CPUs in handpicked tests. How can you call that a success? As I said, it gets beaten by Nehalem which is three years old. It's simply a flawed architecture.

Which "tests" are you talking about, and by Nehalem, are you referring to the 980x? A processor which even gives the 2600k a run for its money in some tests (not overall)?

[Voodoo²]

Always keep an eye on motherboards manufacturers.

http://www.biostar.cn/app/en-us/t-se...s.php?S_ID=554

更新CPU代码，支持AM3+ B2-F / B2-G 步进CPU

B2-F ???? B2-G ????

[undone]

Always keep an eye on motherboards manufacturers.

http://www.biostar.cn/app/en-us/t-se...s.php?S_ID=554

更新CPU代码，支持AM3+ B2-F / B2-G 步进CPU

B2-F ???? B2-G ????

B2G was confirmed by anandshimpi few weeks ago, it is newer than B2F which was spinned in July or August. Looks like newer cpuid would be added in later.

[flyck]

I doubt BD will perform better than gulftown... that would be expecting to much. Even SB-E has a hard time passing gulftown zith double digits.
IIt would be more realistic if they can compete with gulftown in lowthreaded while having a small advantage to the 2600 in highly threaded.

[Seth-01]

X264 Bulldozer Development http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...46#post1528746

yes but :

I have access to a 2x16 core Bulldozer server, plus AMD is mailing us a physical system.

Yes, there will be XOP optimizations. Yes, they will help, at least a % or 2.

[hyc]

I would guess FMA will be much more important for X264 and any other codecs.

[bamtan2]

Always keep an eye on motherboards manufacturers.

http://www.biostar.cn/app/en-us/t-se...s.php?S_ID=554

更新CPU代码，支持AM3+ B2-F / B2-G 步进CPU

B2-F ???? B2-G ????

Obviously B2F wasn't good enough for Zambezi, so that is why it was delayed. But since Interlagos was needed by close partners at first, they could ship some bad chips to Cray and friends and call it a server launch. Even though nobody else is actually getting them. And we know two types of Zambezi have been leaked, the one they'll ship first, and a new one in Q1 2012. I'm guessing B2G is the first one they'll ship, and a B3 is coming which will replace it ASAP. The preceding text is complete and utter speculation!

[Manicdan]

it could be that server chips were doing just fine without the respin since they are using no where near the same clocks as consumer chips

[tbone8ty]

false

I guess u missed my "lol jk" at the end of my comment

;-)

[muziqaz]

if an improved version of what you want is right around the corner, you might just wait for it. theres no bad logic in that. even if BD is perfect, it sure will suck in 10 years from now compared to new stuff then. a flaw could be as simple as a bottleneck they didnt expect and thus fixed. and yes SB has flaws too because even that architecture isnt intels last one forever.

here, Opteron146 posted a schedule
is it around the corner? man, BD was supposed to be q2-3 of this year, and we are yet to see it released. So if piledriver(Vishera) is q3 next year, I don't want to laugh about it, but .... around the corner indeed

[slaveondope]

MicroCenter employee is stating to me they will be able to sell BD on the 12th of October.

[sviola]

here, Opteron146 posted a schedule
is it around the corner? man, BD was supposed to be q2-3 of this year, and we are yet to see it released. So if piledriver(Vishera) is q3 next year, I don't want to laugh about it, but .... around the corner indeed

Well, if AMD have the same release schedule with Piledriver that they are having with BD, I wouldn't expect it to be available next Q3.

edit: typo

[BeepBeep2]

MicroCenter employee is stating to me they will be able to sell BD on the 12th of October.

Yep, after seeing BLT's shipments coming in on the 22nd (was it the 22nd?) I figured we were looking at a 12th of Oct release...

[Oliverda]

Well, if AMD have the same release schedule with Piledriver that they are having with BD, I wouldn't expect it to be available next Q3.

edit: typo

The main problem is the 32 nm process tech which is not matured enough and there is a capacity problem too. I think both of these issues will be solved in few months.
It's always difficult to start a brand new microarchitecture on a brand new and complex (SOI + gate first HKMG) process tech.

Yep, after seeing BLT's shipments coming in on the 22nd (was it the 22nd?) I figured we were looking at a 12th of Oct release...

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[mattkosem]

MicroCenter employee is stating to me they will be able to sell BD on the 12th of October.

Mine says the same.

--Matt

[Oese]

Would be awesome, finally a launch coming?