Amd Officially Benches Bulldozer

[BababooeyHTJ]

Tank Guys said their firm prices. And the 8150 is $260 bought from them

If those prices are legit AMD might have a real winner on their hands. I can't wait to see some benches. Hopefully someone will do some proper gaming benchmarks and not that nothing but low resolution on medium settings crap with canned benchmarks like anandtech or use an old a** video card like the GTX280 that a couple of sites used in their sandy bridge reviews which was once again anandtech as well as hardware canucks and someone else too iirc. There aren't too many sites out there that do a proper cpu oriented gaming benchmark and anandtech is probably the worst.

[Andi64]

Imo, 7Ghz+ FX8150 benchmark results are more important than the actual retail release date

I doubt it will be posted before the actual release date.....It will be an instant game changer for some peep that waiting patiently up untill now. Lol

A game changer for who? 10 people around the world who bench it on LN2? ...and don't even pay for the chips? I don't understand your reasoning. Nobody will buy a CPU because it can handle 25Thz at -0°K, we'll all go "wow! Nice. How about 24x7 air cooling?".

[Pestilence]

A game changer for who? 10 people around the world who bench it on LN2? ...and don't even pay for the chips? I don't understand your reasoning. Nobody will buy a CPU because it can handle 25Thz at -0°K, we'll all go "wow! Nice. How about 24x7 air cooling?".

Agreed with everything you just said. LN2 numbers are nice but 24/7 air numbers are even better. I'm hoping some site will do a 2500K/2700K vs 8150 comparo using a D14

[demonkevy666]

more benchmarks.




meh...

http://wccftech.com/amd-bulldozer-fx...ore-frequency/

that's kind of funny a 5% overclock on cinebech shows an 8% gain O.o

[Dumo]

A game changer for who? 10 people around the world who bench it on LN2? ...and don't even pay for the chips? I don't understand your reasoning. Nobody will buy a CPU because it can handle 25Thz at -0°K, we'll all go "wow! Nice. How about 24x7 air cooling?".

Game changer for me personally. This is my personal opinion and the FX8150 will be provided by Newegg courtesy of Paypal

Don't really know about 24X7 air cooling though, I have my daily/netflix rig set up already

You won't be able to understand my reasoning and just keep it that way

[Ando]

A game changer for who? 10 people around the world who bench it on LN2? ...and don't even pay for the chips? I don't understand your reasoning. Nobody will buy a CPU because it can handle 25Thz at -0°K, we'll all go "wow! Nice. How about 24x7 air cooling?".

You should not be on this forum - and you hAve no idea how many ppl are benching ln2 at the moment and I can assure you it is way more then 10

[Lmui]

Looking good, at around $237 vs $260, I'm going to spend the extra $23 and hope for a small RoI, regardless of whether it be better undervolting stats at stock, higher overclock or whatever may happen. Best case scenario I get to overclock it sky high for winter and shut the heaters in my corner of the house off while still being able to have it draw next to no power through extensive undervolting for the summer.

Either way, I'm committed to buying a computer either when bulldozer rolls out or whenever my first major project is due since the idea of trying to render/simulate something on my laptop makes me shudder.

Early October's sounding good as long as it's a firm date instead of the +/- 2 months thing we've been seeing lately.

[Dumo]

Guys, let's refrain from personal argument. Everyone is entitled to their personal opinion.

We're in the same boat....waiting for retail availability. The only difference is how we gonna use this cpu

[qurious63ss]

You should not be on this forum - and you hAve no idea how many ppl are benching ln2 at the moment and I can assure you it is way more then 10

I'm a novice OCer and do it on air and water. having 6 cores at 4.5-5ghz 24/7 on air or water is more impressive to me then a single core at 7+ghz ln2 suicide run. Can I still be a member of this board? I think there's room for both of us no?

[Andi64]

You should not be on this forum - and you hAve no idea how many ppl are benching ln2 at the moment and I can assure you it is way more then 10

Whatever you say.

I overclock my CPUs since a rebranded Pentium 166MMX, which was in fact a Pentium 133MMX, running 233Mhz (250Mhz FSB100 for benching). I just don't have the money to spend on LN2, but I really enjoy looking at the results of the legends in this forum running incredible speeds.

I said 10 people in an obvious exaggeration to prove a point. VERY FEW people bench with LN2. As a consumer, I need 24/7 rock solid stability, and that is what I'm looking for. Right now running my X6 at 4.1Ghz and my X3 at 3.8Ghz. I can't run 5 ESXi 5.0, 4 Win Server 2003, 2 Win Server 2008, Openfiler and my gaming machine with LN2...

I think comments like yours shoudn't be read on any public forum.

[CrazyNutz]

I'm from the old days, and I just have to call you out on this! There were no "pentium 133mmx" Pentium MMX for socket 7 came in three flavors of P55C 166mhz, 200mhz, and 233mhz.

Whatever you say.

I overclock my CPUs since a rebranded Pentium 166MMX, which was in fact a Pentium 133MMX, running 233Mhz (250Mhz FSB100 for benching). I just don't have the money to spend on LN2, but I really enjoy looking at the results of the legends in this forum running incredible speeds.

I said 10 people in an obvious exaggeration to prove a point. VERY FEW people bench with LN2. As a consumer, I need 24/7 rock solid stability, and that is what I'm looking for. Right now running my X6 at 4.1Ghz and my X3 at 3.8Ghz. I can't run 5 ESXi 5.0, 4 Win Server 2003, 2 Win Server 2008, Openfiler and my gaming machine with LN2...

I think comments like yours shoudn't be read on any public forum.

[Andi64]

Sorry, bad memory

You are right! It was a 166 rebranded as 200, running at 233Mhz

[JasonDTM]

I understand your reasoning Brother Dumo.

[FlanK3r]

A game changer for who? 10 people around the world who bench it on LN2? ...and don't even pay for the chips? I don't understand your reasoning. Nobody will buy a CPU because it can handle 25Thz at -0°K, we'll all go "wow! Nice. How about 24x7 air cooling?".

Man, this is not right (or fair), yes, someone can get chips without pay (top overclockers), but not every LN2 clocker! I must have buy some CPUs, boards, LN2 POT etc

[R101]

Sorry, bad memory

You are right! It was a 166 rebranded as 200, running at 233Mhz

First rebrands that I can remember were AMD 486 DX2 66>80, then Intel Pentium 75>100>120.. And so on..

[kuroikenshi]

I'm from the old days, and I just have to call you out on this! There were no "pentium 133mmx" Pentium MMX for socket 7 came in three flavors of P55C 166mhz, 200mhz, and 233mhz.

OMG I so rememebr my MMX166 presario.... I think I even made it run xp

:P that was well and truly over 10 years ago!

[Lanek]

Well there's both case, a lot of "hardcore " overclocker wait about BD since the OC possibilities have been slighty touch.... SB was not really fun, limited on multi and whatever the cooling used it has not directly an inflluence on the OC.
But for 24/7, the chips was offer nice clockspeed with a 5ghz+.

if thoses chips OC well too under air and water, this can be really interesting for a lot of peoples. Ofc for 24/7, if the performance follow.

Then for non overclocker peoples, the price of the chips, will and can be a good deal...

i will not speak about 980-990x or SB-E vs 8150, whatever is the result between them, the common consumers will mostly watch something like the 8120-8130 vs 2400-2500 ( in term of price ) ... so let's try imagine what a folk can do.

I will make a pure speculated comparaison:
Someone go buy a CPU, he get a I5 dualcores / 4 threads then a I5 dualcores 4c/4threads... on the other hand he got maybe a chip as the 8120-8130, who are maybe not faster (or a lot faster, again it is pure speculation ) in common application of the I5 2500 ( games etc ).. But at the same time thoses CPU can take less common need as multithreading appliccation more easy . At a similar price point.. I can imagine this can be a good and nice deal for thoses peoples.

I think, thoses AMD FX can cover a large spectre of consummers, something who are less evident with the Intel one's.. you get SB-E, who cost a lot , you have then SB who are cheap.. If someone need or want a CPU with big multithreading capability, he will directly go to the SB-E or 990x instead of a 2600K.. and in the socket 1155, the majority will go to a 2400-2500 instead of a 2600K... ( i speak for common public ofc).

Looking at the few we know from FX, they can cover, hardcore Overclocker, average overclocker, mild overclockers, threads addicts, large public, cheap systems....

This said the comparaison i have done is a completele fiction without knowing the real perf of the FX vs Intel lineup.


What worry me more is in the high end mobile departement: a 2820QM have a 4c/8threads. it is basically a lowpower 2600 .And i think AMD maybe miss something by don't release a mobile CPU without APU with a complete Bulldozer or Piledriver cores chips: so with 4modules/8cores at least 3modules/6cores. cause if you want a laptop with a high end CPU coupled with an high end mobile gpu ( or even a professional one as HP elitebook with a Quadro ) you are a bit limited.

But ofc for standard laptop, APU are really an excellent compromise.

[flesheatinvirus]

I am with Dumo on the high end clocking potential of this new chip, all my systems are cranked up 24/7. Still have a few Opteron boxes laying around here somewhere.

[HousERaT]

Looks like interesting times ahead for the AMD crowd...... I might even revisit AMD myself. Can't wait to see some legit benches.

[massman]

You should not be on this forum - and you hAve no idea how many ppl are benching ln2 at the moment and I can assure you it is way more then 10

Just FYI, around 500 at HWBOT use LN2 on CPU.

Amount of LN2 users is function of the behavior of the leading platform in terms of performance. There are roughly 1500 people using subzero cooling; if the platform scales with temperature very well, more people will take the step to LN2.

[stangracin3]

Just FYI, around 500 at HWBOT use LN2 on CPU.

Amount of LN2 users is function of the behavior of the leading platform in terms of performance. There are roughly 1500 people using subzero cooling; if the platform scales with temperature very well, more people will take the step to LN2.

you think well see a few take the lhe jump also?

[G.Foyle]

you think well see a few take the lhe jump also?

Probably no, cost and availability are too prohibitive. There are places where LN2 prices are already very high compared to the cost of hardware or electricity (for phase change).

[Andrew LB]

First rebrands that I can remember were AMD 486 DX2 66>80, then Intel Pentium 75>100>120.. And so on..

I recall the 486DX2-66mhz being an Intel chip. It was my first PC, having converted from Apple so I could play DOOM. Overclocked the sucker to 100mhz as well!

[massman]

you think well see a few take the lhe jump also?

Affirmative

It pretty much comes down to whether or not Bulldozer will be competitive at the highest clock. If, let's say 7.5G LN2 BD is the fastest benching platform for some 3D tests; 8G LHe BD would give you a very nice edge over your competition. Then it all comes down to finding a good deal, which is similar to how it is on LN2. Some pay upto 7€/l, some pay as low as 0.3€/l.

The quantities you need for LHe are a bit higher, though. 500L would be enough for a few decent runs; but that's already 2500€ on cooling. Maybe when Giga or Asus start playing 'who has the biggest' they'll get on the LHe train

[Lanek]

you think well see a few take the lhe jump also?

I have try find what can cost LHE, the problem is for the container, transport and the re-use... there's a big process for empty container before be filled again.. this cost surely too much... Dunno if a lot of peoples will put 1500-2000$ on a "suicide run"..