Quote Originally Posted by maltrabob View Post
Well, if they don`t do marketing, who planned today`s surprise for them? On Intel`s day as well ;-).
Everyone here needs to understand that marketing =/= PR.

Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
And you, you're paid by AMD for sayin' such bullits or what ?

Are you aware that AMD has sent confidential datas to some press ? Do you really think that data directly from AMD are indeed faked data ?
The room was full of press guys, I was there. Anything that came out of the room was shared with everyone in the press. It was all captured on film.

Quote Originally Posted by repman View Post
I found a few posts by JF which you might find interesting, I think he was commenting the sandra benchmarks:



These are from [H] and were posted in august, but there are quite a few hints there.

I think everyone should relax, there are so many fake benchmarks flying around no one can tell which one (if any) is true.
Yes, back in august there were all kinds of benchmarks on "final" silicon. I could not mention that we had not reached production silicon either.

The funniest thing is that I could give 2 people (an intel fanboy and an amd fanboy) the exact same piece of silicon and both could give you different benchmark results. Why would anyone assume that all of these fake benchmarks, if they were real, were actually on an optimized system? Couldn't you run a 4200RPM HD, 800MHz memory, and play all kinds of BIOS tricks? I know that I could probably get about 80% of the optimizations done to get the best performance out of a platform, but I know I could do 100% of the things that would sabotage performance. If you think about it, AMD is not releasing info, so the stuff that is floating around (if it is even real) is probably from people not friendly to AMD. And somehow everyone is trusting those results. Nobody ever questions the motives of the people supplying this info, but to be fair, because it is third or fourth hand (some guy I know who has a friend who has an uncle that knows a guy in...) how can anyone vouch for the results.