If I remember correct the first 8 samples tested did 8Ghz or more with LN2, also some very high on water. Clocks is good, and architecture is...

Like another said, "some" guys without mension any in here may be just great pay'd off by Intel who don't know whay they're talking about or have too much spare time. In here BD is kind of underestimated from guys who does'nt know. Even with an eventuelly game from AMD (ohh can it be?), they buy it like a child. Wait for release... It will not perform bad, but compared to whay you've wait and see.