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I will be thoroughly peeved at AMD if they've had us in the dark this long for what amounts to garbage.

Well it may not be garbage in server segment. On the contrary it may be pretty good ,even versus SB-E.
On desktop though,if nothing changes,many websites will label it as a letdown in their reviews.

well, one integer thread in bulldozer is not as strong as one integer thread in thuban, but tuban has six and bulldozer 8. so if single-thread integer performance is kinda low on bd, it doesnt surprise me... bd needs turbo to solve that.

IMO this doesn't make sense. We are now in 2011. AMD knew what kind of cores it will have to fight this year and in the years to come. Core generation already had pretty big advantage in integer workloads(some due to compiler advantages some due to better uarchitecture). Now I'm supposed to think that even though AMD knew the gap will be around 35-40% ,at similar clocks,they will go with 15% slower design (IPC) versus their own familiy 10h and hope to make up all this by clocking it sky high? They would need 5.5-6Ghz to match QC SB with SMT which will never happen. Bulldozer can barely touch 4Ghz with Turbo on and this is not on all cores. Something is not right here...