AMD Zambezi news, info, fans !

[PatRaceTin]

FM2 socket in 2012 make me sick

AM3+ >>>>>> FM2
FM1 >>>>>>> FM2

[Particle]

I still maintain that a socket change isn't a big deal at all for most of the people in the high-end-equipment audience. I'm always going to buy a new motherboard with new features when I grab a new generation of chip anyway, and I know I'm not unusual in that regard.

[devguy]

Sorry to hear about that John. I miss a lot of things about Austin, but the weather this time of year is not one of them (especially this year). My family back in Round Rock is quite lucky, in that their home was not flooded with the massive flood last year, and none in their neighborhood has been afflicted with fire during this drought.

As for those wondering why AMD is not showing off benchmarks of the FX series before launch (whether good or bad), I'm sure they have a multitude of reasons. Here could be some examples of why it might "stall sales". Easy case: If it performs poorly (by the view of us enthusiasts), obviously people are going consider alternatives. On the other hand, say it handily wipes the floor with an Intel 2600k, most people would be interested, sure. But would you still be interested if Intel saw those benchmarks also, and dropped the price of the 2600k/2500k by a $100 today (and maybe p67 chipset prices too)? What if it performs on par with the 2600k at a similar price point? Then why wouldn't one go for the 2600k, as it is available now, with the FX launch date still a mystery (what would be the point of waiting for it)? Intel could even drop the price a little for an incentive.

All three of those hypothetical situations could possibly hurt AMD sales. Thus, I can easily see why they are guarding performance benchmarks so tightly.

[wez]

"We'll be making an historic announcement"
http://amd-member.com/newsletters/De...nZone2011.html

[Manicdan]

sounds like a trinity announcement

[Motiv]

sounds like a trinity announcement

Who knows. I love how they say "historic" announcement. We all know after spin that means "we wont tell you much and what we will tell you, will disappoint"

[radaja]

"We'll be making an historic announcement"
http://amd-member.com/newsletters/De...nZone2011.html

i hope its not that BD will release in Oct?but i do want one of them FX4170 4.2GHz quads if the xbit article is true
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...ch_Lineup.html

[Motiv]

i hope its not that BD will release in Oct?but i do want one of them FX4170 4.2GHz quads if the xbit article is true
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...ch_Lineup.html

Must say, that's a pathetic turbo boost. lol

[jimbo75]

Must say, that's a pathetic turbo boost. lol

Yeah it's only half a gigahertz ahead of intels. Poor show AMD!

[SkullCracka]

they meant the 4.2 to 4.3turbo on that rumored new quad core. 100mhz Turbo is kinda useless.

[jimbo75]

I know what he meant.

[freeloader]

It's a horrible show. Why turbo 100 mhz?

[radaja]

It's a horrible show. Why turbo 100 mhz?

to keep it within the TDP i suspect,but at 4.2Ghz stock it will be good competition for the 2500K?
it might beat the 2500K in reviews due to its high clock?

[jimbo75]

It's a horrible show. Why turbo 100 mhz?

Why would anyone pick out the 0.1 GHz turbo for fault before praising the high 4.2 GHz base clock?

[Manicdan]

lets think logically for a second here

an 8 core chip with just 4 cores running gets up to 4.2ghz
a 4 core chip with all 4 cores running also gets 4.2ghz, when its just 2 less its able to get an extra 100mhz due to not having to power additional L3 and crap

so i think the numbers do make sense (when thinking about peak power draw for different chips) and we have seen amd offer really fast lower clocked cpus, but i dont think they would want to hurt their higher chips sales by making the cheaper ones win in some/alot of benchmarks.

[EniGmA1987]

"We'll be making an historic announcement"
http://amd-member.com/newsletters/De...nZone2011.html

BD launch in late 2012 now? AMD, trying to outdo Duke Nukem Forever

[freeloader]

Why would anyone pick out the 0.1 GHz turbo for fault before praising the high 4.2 GHz base clock?

Because it's pointless, that's why.

[freeloader]

lets think logically for a second here

an 8 core chip with just 4 cores running gets up to 4.2ghz
a 4 core chip with all 4 cores running also gets 4.2ghz, when its just 2 less its able to get an extra 100mhz due to not having to power additional L3 and crap

so i think the numbers do make sense (when thinking about peak power draw for different chips) and we have seen amd offer really fast lower clocked cpus, but i dont think they would want to hurt their higher chips sales by making the cheaper ones win in some/alot of benchmarks.

The L3 cache is 8MB for all chips, so no additional power needed for that. I'm starting to think it's a process restriction (over 4.2 GHz, GloFo's 32nm might consume too much power or require high voltages, both situations affecting the chips TDP) but we will know that when we can actually overclock them. Can't wait to get an eight core in my grubby mits!

[Manicdan]

The L3 cache is 8MB for all chips, so no additional power needed for that. I'm starting to think it's a process restriction (over 4.2 GHz, GloFo's 32nm might consume too much power or require high voltages, both situations affecting the chips TDP) but we will know that when we can actually overclock them. Can't wait to get an eight core in my grubby mits!

true, theres still additional silicon i bet that draws power when not shut off through the same means and this is just trying to access that extra little power.

[imamage]

i hope its not that BD will release in Oct?but i do want one of them FX4170 4.2GHz quads if the xbit article is true
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...ch_Lineup.html

Q3 -> Q4 2011
That doesn't sounds good.....

[PatRaceTin]

i see news section October again

[FlanK3r]

I dont believe this rumnours....It is the same ,as this bulls*its
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...iscussion_last

[FlanK3r]

I dont believe this rumnours....It is the same ,as this bulls*its
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...iscussion_last

[duron]

shipping has begun

http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-ship...zer/13503.html

[Chrono Detector]

So we have two different articles saying Bulldozer will be shipped this month and another one is delayed, again. So which one is accurate? Getting really annoyed with all these neverending delays and speculation.