Quote Originally Posted by Formula350 View Post
Yea, I did find that out. I've been doing lots of reading and what I had found out at the time of my posting had given me the impression that PSC ICs of Hyper clocking caliber were also extinct. I did find out that isn't the case though and my Kingmax kit (2200 10-10-10) uses PSC also, but it was misbehaving and wouldn't do the advertised speeds for the owner of the site I edit for, so they aren't exactly a shining sample. Most I've been able to muster is 8-9-8 @ 1833. Not matter what I've tried, 1900 or 2000 won't go. Heavily playing around with Drive strengths did get me a few POSTs under 1900, but it wasn't long before it locked :\ I really appreciate the info though. I figured that capable of 6-8-6 @ 1600 1.6V still would've had the capability of higher speeds at reasonable timings, but it's good to know that isn't necessarily the case! Was about to nab a G.Skill Pi kit for $50 rated for 6-8-6-24 1600 @ 1.6, and there's a Ripjaws X (black heatsink) I could get as well with same specs but is 1.5V.
2200 10-10-10 is not a stellar bin as well, although I'm surprised they're that bad. If you want to try one of the cheaper kits, go for it, but don't expect too much from them. You might find some lucky sticks especially on older kits, but if you want very good PSC ICs, check out G.Skill's 2133 7-10-7 or 2200 7-10-10 kits.

Quote Originally Posted by FlanK3r View Post
Chew: have u time (or chance) try all three chips at the same clocks? Im curious, if Llano will be really better than Deneb/Thuban or not - at example 3990-4000 Mhz
He has done that already, at those clocks with high memory frequency, Llano is faster than Thuban/Deneb in 32M.