NEW: aquaero 5 series

[The Byter]

Hey

I got this flow meter
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/flsehflg1for.html
"Flow sensor high flow G1/4 for aquaero, aquastream XT ultra and poweradjust"

In AE5 I just choose:
Default calibertion values:
- Aqua computer high flow ? right ?


I get 0.64 gal/min ...

[Shoggy]

Yes, that is right. The aquaero has default profiles for all three sensors that we offer. I also recommend to use these profiles when using one of them because we also did some other adjustments in the background to improve the readings which can not be achieved with a manual setting since we don't know the characteristics of other sensors.

[The Byter]

Thank you

0.64 gal/min ? ok ? too low ?

[zoomee]

Wiht my koolance flow meter rigged directly to the AE5, using a setting of 197 - I am getting 196 l/h

using a swiftech mcp-355 would that be round about right Phatboy?

thanks in advance.

[acutech]

In AE5 I just choose:
Default calibertion values:
- Aqua computer high flow ? right ?

Where do you access these settings? For the life of me I keep searching over and over again but can't find them!

Thanks

*EDIT* Nvm I found it! Finally getting decent flow rate! :/

[z3d.]

Sorry guys, some questions:

-Aquaero 5 PRO comes in bundle with the Aquasuite Cd's or I'll have to buy it separately?
-Someone with a inudible/low low noise build could tell me how much noise the AQ High Flow meter will make at low flow and at around 1GPM-200l/h?
-Someone was able to use the Swissflow meter SF800 (here) with right reads on Aquaero 5? Could you share the working settings?

[cx-ray]

The software might be included with the AE5 by now. It's doesn't really matter though. You can always download it from http://aquacomputer.de/software.html.

[BIGJOHNH24]

Hey thanks for the reply slavearm.

I do have an aquaero 5 XT, with capacitive touch buttons (wich also suffered from the "capacitive syndrom" until I removed the front plate, now need to find a way to put it back on without triggering the random crazy behavior...). My device is already flashed to latest v.1013.
As for the PA2's, all 3 are connected and seem to work as I do see all 7 fan channels. The problem is only with my Temp sensors, wich are aqua computers' internal/external G1/4, where 2 of wich indicate negative values ex: "<-45 ºC", OR "-43,8 ºC". The 3rd one seem fine indicating 28 or so degrees Celcius. The 4th only shows " - - " and doesn't appear in aquasuite either... I thought it wasn't connected properly but after further verification it seems installed properly.

My flow sensor is aqua computer's Flow Sensor "High Flow" G1/4. Loop runs as follow: Pumps -> Flow Sensor -> aquaero block -> RX360 Rad -> Ram Block -> CPU block -> Mobo block -> GPU block -> Reservoir -> Pumps
As you can see, the flow sensor directly follows the pumps, and when filling the loop I powered the pumps through an external power supply and the flow was visibly higher. When running from the aquaero the pumps run significantly at lower power... (I did plug the 4pin molex of both fans to the PSU).

I understand you can get aquasuite to monitor pretty much everything you want, problem is I have a hard time figuring it out right now :/

Would be nice if someone could give us a little "step by step" demonstration on how to configure a chart, or nything actually, then it would be easier figuring out the rest I guess...

Thanks,

I am haveing the same problem with my A5 XT it works fine without the faceplate but with the faceplate on it gose nuts it will run some what normal with a few random hicups as long as you dont touch it but as soon as I touch the faceplate or buttons it gose crazy i have tried optional black faceplate didnt help, tried rubber standoffs didnt help, tried mounting in my case to see if that would ground it nope didnt help,tried putting scotch tape over the back of the faceplate then along with rubber standoffs didnt help, I have tried ajusting the button sensitivity didnt help. I have spent several days trying to figure this out to no avail the only solution that i have found is to use it without the faceplate i can tell you with all the money that i have spent on this system and accessories I should not have to go through all of this crap am I wrong in thinking this thing should work out of the box? has anyone figured this problem out if not i guess I am going to try and RMA this unit and try again.

[Lu(ky]

Anyone know where I could pick up a Aquaero 5 XT with remote in the US? Seems everyone is out of stock, could I purchase out of country without a VAC charge?
Thanks

[z3d.]

Sorry guys, some questions:

-Aquaero 5 PRO comes in bundle with the Aquasuite Cd's or I'll have to buy it separately?
-Someone with a inudible/low low noise build could tell me how much noise the AQ High Flow meter will make at low flow and at around 1GPM-200l/h?
-Someone was able to use the Swissflow meter SF800 (here) with right reads on Aquaero 5? Could you share the working settings?

Nobody on questions #2 and #3? Please I need those informations, I already asked to Aquacomputer (for question #2) but they don't know..

[The Byter]

2- none

[jcrouse]

So if I hook up a MCP-655 Pump with speed control, how do I control it from the AE5? Do I set the pump to 5 with the little dial and then use the AE5 to slow it down if desired?

Should I maybe be using PWM (or PMW, not sure) for the speed control or just a regular channel?

Also, I want to hook up 4 banks of fans and 2 pumps (I am watercooling the AE5). I think that I read the pumps should go on Channels 1 and 4. I have 3 PA2's. How do I know which channels are which number? You can see a picture of the AE5 and PA2's here: http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...-blanco-6.html near the bottom of the page.

Thank you,
John

[Phatboy69]

So if I hook up a MCP-655 Pump with speed control, how do I control it from the AE5? Do I set the pump to 5 with the little dial and then use the AE5 to slow it down if desired?

Should I maybe be using PWM (or PMW, not sure) for the speed control or just a regular channel?

Also, I want to hook up 4 banks of fans and 2 pumps (I am watercooling the AE5). I think that I read the pumps should go on Channels 1 and 4. I have 3 PA2's. How do I know which channels are which number? You can see a picture of the AE5 and PA2's here: http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...-blanco-6.html near the bottom of the page.

Thank you,
John

Hi Mate

Set to 5 and control speed with AE5 between 7.2v and 12v. Dont go lower than 7.2v or it might stop, better to go for 7.6v just to be sure.
Use normal channel NOT PWM
Use the Aquasuite software and you can see what channels are what. It wont mention PA2s though, they will just appear as Ch5, 6 & 7.
The PA2s need to each have unique id's set with Aquasuite 4.72 from 50, 51 ,52 corresponding with Ch5, 6 & 7. Thats how you tell which is which.
Of course you also need to daisy chain the PA2s to the A5 high speed aquabus port AFTER you have individually hooked them up 1 AT A TIME to USB for initial configuration with Aquasuite 4.72 to set the address Id's as above. Once configured the USB cable is not required for the PA2s as only the A5 will need USB.

Yes Ch1 and 4 or Ch1 & 3, doesnt make any difference as long as your not on 2 adjacent channels. The A5 will cope fine with 2x D5s on it so I would recommend putting your heavier current loads on the PA2s and provide them with some active air flow if possible.

If you look for my build log you will see lots of information that might come in handy, I have a fully configured A5 with 6 PA2s, 4 D5 pumps, 2 flow meters, 27 odd fans and several sensors....

PS.
1. If you want startboost to work on the PA2s connected to the AE5 you have to first disable startboost on the PA2s by connecting via USB to each PA2 individually and turn startboost off in Aquasuite 4.72.
2. There's is also another PA2 startboost setting while your using 4.72 that you may want to disable too if your using a fan or pump on them without an RPM signal. You need to uncheck startup boost parameter "active when no speed signal is measured". The PA2 defaults to 100% when no RPM signal is present as a failsafe. You need to uncheck this box to disable it as otherwise it wont reduce the voltage below 12V, which means you cant vary the speed. This is a safety feature though, designed for applying maximum voltage if the RPM signal stops. So it should be left on if you are using an RPM signal on the PA2s.

[jcrouse]

Can the PA2's be programmed with Aquasuite 2012? You seem to emphasize 4.72. If so, where can I get 4.72?

So, when programming, I don't need the AE5, just hook the PA2 directly to the USB mobo header?

Do I need to update any firmware?

What is startboost?

Thanks,
John

[Phatboy69]

Can the PA2's be programmed with Aquasuite 2012? You seem to emphasize 4.72. If so, where can I get 4.72?

So, when programming, I don't need the AE5, just hook the PA2 directly to the USB mobo header?

Do I need to update any firmware?

What is startboost?

Thanks,
John

You need to download 4.72 from the same place as 2012. 2012 doesnt support PA2 on USB, only as a slave on the A5.
Yes directly connect to USB header for config before you connect to A5.
Yes probably, though they may now be shipping with latest firmware. 4.72 will tell you what the latest firmware is and download it for you.
Startboost is used to over-ride the controllers current/voltage settings during startup. This is in case you have a high current/voltage device that needs max power for startup before the controller takes over with your assigned settings.
It can also be used to limit power for current surge which is how I use it to stop my fans from tripping an overcurrent at startup which would turn them off! 1 strand of fans in my setup peaks at 2.2Amps at startup so I have to use startboost set for 40% to help limit the current so it doesnt trip the protection circuit and turn them off!

[jcrouse]

You need to download 4.72 from the same place as 2012. 2012 doesnt support PA2 on USB, only as a slave on the A5.

I looked and certainley don't see it. maybe they removed it?

Thanks,
john

[Phatboy69]

I looked and certainley don't see it. maybe they removed it?

Thanks,
john

Just looked its definitely there.

http://www.aquacomputer.de/software.html

http://www.aquacomputer.de/software....up_4.72.00.exe

[jcrouse]

1 strand of fans in my setup peaks at 2.2Amps at startup so I have to use startboost set for 40% to help limit the current so it doesnt trip the protection circuit and turn them off!

Thanks for the great explanation. I am curious, what fans are they and how many of them do you have on the strand? I will have one strand of 8 1850 GTs and another of 4 1850 GTs. The first should be my biggest draw at start up.

Thanks,
John

[BIGJOHNH24]

I am haveing the same problem with my A5 XT it works fine without the faceplate but with the faceplate on it gose nuts it will run some what normal with a few random hicups as long as you dont touch it but as soon as I touch the faceplate or buttons it gose crazy i have tried optional black faceplate didnt help, tried rubber standoffs didnt help, tried mounting in my case to see if that would ground it nope didnt help,tried putting scotch tape over the back of the faceplate then along with rubber standoffs didnt help, I have tried ajusting the button sensitivity didnt help. I have spent several days trying to figure this out to no avail the only solution that i have found is to use it without the faceplate i can tell you with all the money that i have spent on this system and accessories I should not have to go through all of this crap am I wrong in thinking this thing should work out of the box? has anyone figured this problem out if not i guess I am going to try and RMA this unit and try again.

Just looked into RMAing My A5 XT and not worth the shipping cost to send it back so im stuck with it. Has anyone figured out a work around with the faceplate issue yet ??>??

[Shoggy]

The problem with the hypersensitive that some customers experience is well known to us. We already have worked out a solution to that which will be available in around two weeks. Customers which already own an aquaero and experience problems will be able to convert their aquaeros by a very easy to do modification.

With the current firmware you would be able to deactivate the touch controls so they would not bother you and you can use the remote control in the meantime.

If you want to try out something now: remove the front cover and carefully remove the plexiglas cover. It is attached with a double-sided sticky tape. For a few customers it helped to remove this tape. We use it because normally without this tape the touch controls will not work correctly.
Another thing is the shielding. Some people said it helped to shield the side brackets of the aquaero against the case while others even tried to get a better contact by roughening the surfaces which have contact. Well, it is a mystery...

[BIGJOHNH24]

The problem with the hypersensitive that some customers experience is well known to us. We already have worked out a solution to that which will be available in around two weeks. Customers which already own an aquaero and experience problems will be able to convert their aquaeros by a very easy to do modification.

With the current firmware you would be able to deactivate the touch controls so they would not bother you and you can use the remote control in the meantime.

If you want to try out something now: remove the front cover and carefully remove the plexiglas cover. It is attached with a double-sided sticky tape. For a few customers it helped to remove this tape. We use it because normally without this tape the touch controls will not work correctly.
Another thing is the shielding. Some people said it helped to shield the side brackets of the aquaero against the case while others even tried to get a better contact by roughening the surfaces which have contact. Well, it is a mystery...

Thanks for the reply Shoggy

Question how much will the mod cost ?

Question 2 dose the A5 Pro version have any of the same issues?

[Phatboy69]

My fans are cooler master R4 silent series 90cfm 2000RPM units. (not the sickleflow units, although they do have the same blades they have a different motor control system)
I have 4 rads with 6 fans per channel all running 6 fans per PA2. They draw .37A each at startup and spin from about 4.5v>12v. Under full RPM they draw 1.9A per channel. A lot of other fans out there are much less power hungry though, especially the 1850GT's. So you could run twice as many per channel and still be fine.
There's lots of useful data here> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...oundup_18.html and also on skinny labs.

[jcrouse]

Well PB, thanks for the help but I just went into a holding pattern due to a bad LCD on my AE5. I flashed it and it never returned. It did look cool for about 2 minutes.

Where's Shoggy?

Thanks,
John

[Phatboy69]

Sorry to hear that mate! Im sure the AC boys will look after you though. Where'd you purchase from?

[jcrouse]

Sorry to hear that mate! Im sure the AC boys will look after you though. Where'd you purchase from?

Straight from Aquacomputer, back in March. Shoggy put the order together for me. Honestly, I'm not sweating it. The seem like a good company and I sure it will work out. It's just the time thing. Oh well, I still got some plumbing and sleeving to do.

Later,
John