24/7 Cruncher #1
Crosshair VII Hero, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 AIO, 4x8GB GSKILL 3600MHz C15, ASUS TUF 3090 OC
Samsung 980 1TB NVMe, Samsung 870 QVO 1TB, 2x10TB WD Red RAID1, Win 10 Pro, Enthoo Luxe TG, EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2
24/7 Cruncher #2
ASRock X470 Taichi, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer 280 AIO, 2x16GB GSKILL NEO 3600MHz C16, EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra
Samsung 970 EVO 250GB NVMe, Samsung 870 EVO 500GBWin 10 Ent, Enthoo Pro, Seasonic FOCUS Plus 850W
24/7 Cruncher #3
GA-P67A-UD4-B3 BIOS F8 mod, 2600k (L051B138) @ 4.5 GHz, 1.260v full load, Arctic Liquid 120, (Boots Win @ 5.6 GHz per Massman binning)
Samsung Green 4x4GB @2133 C10, EVGA 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid, Samsung 870 EVO 500GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Rosewill Rise, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W G2
24/7 Cruncher #4 ... Crucial M225 64GB SSD Donated to Endurance Testing (Died at 968 TB of writes...no that is not a typo!)
GA-EP45T-UD3LR BIOS F10 modded, Q6600 G0 VID 1.212 (L731B536), 3.6 GHz 9x400 @ 1.312v full load, Zerotherm Zen FZ120
OCZ 2x2GB DDR3-1600MHz C7, Gigabyte 7950 @1200/1250, Crucial MX100 128GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Centurion 590, XFX PRO650W
Music System
SB Server->SB Touch w/Android Tablet as a remote->Denon AVR-X3300W->JBL Studio Series Floorstanding Speakers, JBL LS Center, 2x SVS SB-2000 Subs
Any results would be welcome! I am eager to find out how an older generation SSD stands against the new ones.
Sure, just post your results here!
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Hardware:
Will do tomorrow!
24/7 Cruncher #1
Crosshair VII Hero, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 AIO, 4x8GB GSKILL 3600MHz C15, ASUS TUF 3090 OC
Samsung 980 1TB NVMe, Samsung 870 QVO 1TB, 2x10TB WD Red RAID1, Win 10 Pro, Enthoo Luxe TG, EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2
24/7 Cruncher #2
ASRock X470 Taichi, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer 280 AIO, 2x16GB GSKILL NEO 3600MHz C16, EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra
Samsung 970 EVO 250GB NVMe, Samsung 870 EVO 500GBWin 10 Ent, Enthoo Pro, Seasonic FOCUS Plus 850W
24/7 Cruncher #3
GA-P67A-UD4-B3 BIOS F8 mod, 2600k (L051B138) @ 4.5 GHz, 1.260v full load, Arctic Liquid 120, (Boots Win @ 5.6 GHz per Massman binning)
Samsung Green 4x4GB @2133 C10, EVGA 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid, Samsung 870 EVO 500GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Rosewill Rise, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W G2
24/7 Cruncher #4 ... Crucial M225 64GB SSD Donated to Endurance Testing (Died at 968 TB of writes...no that is not a typo!)
GA-EP45T-UD3LR BIOS F10 modded, Q6600 G0 VID 1.212 (L731B536), 3.6 GHz 9x400 @ 1.312v full load, Zerotherm Zen FZ120
OCZ 2x2GB DDR3-1600MHz C7, Gigabyte 7950 @1200/1250, Crucial MX100 128GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Centurion 590, XFX PRO650W
Music System
SB Server->SB Touch w/Android Tablet as a remote->Denon AVR-X3300W->JBL Studio Series Floorstanding Speakers, JBL LS Center, 2x SVS SB-2000 Subs
Got some baseline info so I can things started in the spreadsheet?
24/7 Cruncher #1
Crosshair VII Hero, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 AIO, 4x8GB GSKILL 3600MHz C15, ASUS TUF 3090 OC
Samsung 980 1TB NVMe, Samsung 870 QVO 1TB, 2x10TB WD Red RAID1, Win 10 Pro, Enthoo Luxe TG, EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2
24/7 Cruncher #2
ASRock X470 Taichi, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer 280 AIO, 2x16GB GSKILL NEO 3600MHz C16, EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra
Samsung 970 EVO 250GB NVMe, Samsung 870 EVO 500GBWin 10 Ent, Enthoo Pro, Seasonic FOCUS Plus 850W
24/7 Cruncher #3
GA-P67A-UD4-B3 BIOS F8 mod, 2600k (L051B138) @ 4.5 GHz, 1.260v full load, Arctic Liquid 120, (Boots Win @ 5.6 GHz per Massman binning)
Samsung Green 4x4GB @2133 C10, EVGA 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid, Samsung 870 EVO 500GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Rosewill Rise, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W G2
24/7 Cruncher #4 ... Crucial M225 64GB SSD Donated to Endurance Testing (Died at 968 TB of writes...no that is not a typo!)
GA-EP45T-UD3LR BIOS F10 modded, Q6600 G0 VID 1.212 (L731B536), 3.6 GHz 9x400 @ 1.312v full load, Zerotherm Zen FZ120
OCZ 2x2GB DDR3-1600MHz C7, Gigabyte 7950 @1200/1250, Crucial MX100 128GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Centurion 590, XFX PRO650W
Music System
SB Server->SB Touch w/Android Tablet as a remote->Denon AVR-X3300W->JBL Studio Series Floorstanding Speakers, JBL LS Center, 2x SVS SB-2000 Subs
Alright, I'll track: C7, Host writes; D1, Remaining Drive Life (equiv. MWI); D0, Average Erase Count (equiv. raw wear indicator); CF, Maximum Erase Count; C4, Erase Failure Block Count (seems to be indicative of reallocated sectors on my drive, hopefully it is with yours).
I'll call it "M225->Vertex Turbo 64GB" and will need the average speed reported from Anvil's App after a few hours and then you should be all set....for future reports you can either do a screenshot or post the values that are tracked (probably best to do a screenshot initially in case I'm wrong about C4 and if the other values move in interesting ways ).
You see it really is a balancing act. The old SSDs had old algorithms and old 50nm NAND with loads of cycles to burn through while the new SSDs have better algorithms and less endurant 25nm NAND. One would expect to see both these types last the same because of the compromises made in each case etc. Imagine a SSD with 50nm NAND and a new modern controller !
1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB
BAT, unexpected indeed.
Could you change back to Hex and post a screenshot, it might just be an issue with CDI.
CA looks correct though, 102% indicates that you are on overtime, showing "Good" is a bug though
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Hardware:
Well, you behaved like a nice customer with alot of needs from writing perspective, so probably it decided to give you credit for a few more months to make you happy
Ontopic: If there is no displaying issue, then is probably just a nice bug regarded to the way this is decremented (a fanatic OOP programmer who just hate "if" statements).
196.04TB Host writes
Reallocated sector count : 6
MD5 OK, 34.92MiB/s on avg (25.25 hours)
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Hardware:
1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB
253.5TB. 33 reallocated sectors. That value which I believe to be the drive wear is 126.
C300 Update
121.79TiB, 59 MWI, 2058 raw wear, 2048/1 reallocation, 61.95MiB/sec (116hrs average), MD5 OK.
M225->Vertex Turbo 64GB Update:
Sorry it took so long to update, I fighting a redirect/advert trojan I can't seem to get rid of
Had to stop Anvil's app for about 4 hours this morning, Restarted and running now.
2.81TiB, MWI 98, 111 Raw Wear, 37.99MiB/s
I feel lack of TRIM is killing it.
Looks like I would need to stop every 5 loops to run wiper tool to get some good avg speeds, but wouldn't that hurt the drive wear as well???
Last edited by bluestang; 07-29-2011 at 09:14 AM.
24/7 Cruncher #1
Crosshair VII Hero, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 AIO, 4x8GB GSKILL 3600MHz C15, ASUS TUF 3090 OC
Samsung 980 1TB NVMe, Samsung 870 QVO 1TB, 2x10TB WD Red RAID1, Win 10 Pro, Enthoo Luxe TG, EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2
24/7 Cruncher #2
ASRock X470 Taichi, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer 280 AIO, 2x16GB GSKILL NEO 3600MHz C16, EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra
Samsung 970 EVO 250GB NVMe, Samsung 870 EVO 500GBWin 10 Ent, Enthoo Pro, Seasonic FOCUS Plus 850W
24/7 Cruncher #3
GA-P67A-UD4-B3 BIOS F8 mod, 2600k (L051B138) @ 4.5 GHz, 1.260v full load, Arctic Liquid 120, (Boots Win @ 5.6 GHz per Massman binning)
Samsung Green 4x4GB @2133 C10, EVGA 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid, Samsung 870 EVO 500GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Rosewill Rise, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W G2
24/7 Cruncher #4 ... Crucial M225 64GB SSD Donated to Endurance Testing (Died at 968 TB of writes...no that is not a typo!)
GA-EP45T-UD3LR BIOS F10 modded, Q6600 G0 VID 1.212 (L731B536), 3.6 GHz 9x400 @ 1.312v full load, Zerotherm Zen FZ120
OCZ 2x2GB DDR3-1600MHz C7, Gigabyte 7950 @1200/1250, Crucial MX100 128GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Centurion 590, XFX PRO650W
Music System
SB Server->SB Touch w/Android Tablet as a remote->Denon AVR-X3300W->JBL Studio Series Floorstanding Speakers, JBL LS Center, 2x SVS SB-2000 Subs
Hello tech guys. I am happy to find so many knowledgeable people in the same place.
I have two queries. it would be nice to have your replies on these matters.
1. Query of purpose: I have an Asus x51H notebook with 80GB SATA HDD from Hitachi. I do not know what kind of SATA port is that; I rpesume SATA 2. Now, I want to replace that with an Intel SSD 120GB or 160GB (depends on price lowering in the next two months). As this model of llaptop is very rarely covered by online resources, i am having a hard time figuring out what i can add and what i can't. i really need to know if these SSDs are compatible with my notebook.
** I use Win XP only. i won't switch to Win 7 even if someone pays me 100 bucks.
2. Query of curiosity: since i was a kid, whenever i see some empty place for a microchip on a circuit board, i always wonder if i solder one of those chips in the empty spaces, will the capacity go up? like in the case of the 80GB SSD board. just curious.
Last edited by uzbuk; 07-29-2011 at 08:30 AM.
I'd err on the side of not doing anything, but I guess do what you would do with it in normal use, if you can.
I don't know how wiper works...is it TRIM retrofitted for Indilinx?
Forgot to ask this earlier: what do you have in terms of static data? johnw, B.A.T, and I all have ~39GiB of static data on our 64GB drives and leave 12GiB free via Anvil's app. You can use Anvil's app to make the static data by killing it from Task Manager when the counter gets up to 39GiB, rename the TEST folder, and then restart the app like nothing ever happened.
32.8GB static, 26.7GB free, and 12GB left free via Anvi's app.
Wiper is an Indilinx Tool for user initiated Garbage Collection.
24/7 Cruncher #1
Crosshair VII Hero, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 AIO, 4x8GB GSKILL 3600MHz C15, ASUS TUF 3090 OC
Samsung 980 1TB NVMe, Samsung 870 QVO 1TB, 2x10TB WD Red RAID1, Win 10 Pro, Enthoo Luxe TG, EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2
24/7 Cruncher #2
ASRock X470 Taichi, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer 280 AIO, 2x16GB GSKILL NEO 3600MHz C16, EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra
Samsung 970 EVO 250GB NVMe, Samsung 870 EVO 500GBWin 10 Ent, Enthoo Pro, Seasonic FOCUS Plus 850W
24/7 Cruncher #3
GA-P67A-UD4-B3 BIOS F8 mod, 2600k (L051B138) @ 4.5 GHz, 1.260v full load, Arctic Liquid 120, (Boots Win @ 5.6 GHz per Massman binning)
Samsung Green 4x4GB @2133 C10, EVGA 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid, Samsung 870 EVO 500GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Rosewill Rise, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W G2
24/7 Cruncher #4 ... Crucial M225 64GB SSD Donated to Endurance Testing (Died at 968 TB of writes...no that is not a typo!)
GA-EP45T-UD3LR BIOS F10 modded, Q6600 G0 VID 1.212 (L731B536), 3.6 GHz 9x400 @ 1.312v full load, Zerotherm Zen FZ120
OCZ 2x2GB DDR3-1600MHz C7, Gigabyte 7950 @1200/1250, Crucial MX100 128GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Centurion 590, XFX PRO650W
Music System
SB Server->SB Touch w/Android Tablet as a remote->Denon AVR-X3300W->JBL Studio Series Floorstanding Speakers, JBL LS Center, 2x SVS SB-2000 Subs
IMHO for this test it is best to use Windows 7 or Linux as they support TRIM and the 1916 or similar latest Indilinx firmware otherwise the test would be pretty much unrealistic and meaningless to most people. I expect the drive to last less than 10 TB because the Indilinx drives have an older algo which has high write amplification.
Looked into Wiper and it is just a retrofitted and manually activated TRIM. If you feel you would run it every TB or so in real life, then do that
32.8GB static is close enough to what the rest of us with 64GB are doing, and a far cry from an empty drive.
WA to date is only ~2.4x on the Indilinx, but it is very early to declare it so low (at an even later point in the test, the Samsung's was 'only' 3.5x). At the current rate, the M225->Vertex Turbo is slated to last 144TiB. While a 50x WA would be interesting to see, doesn't look like we will with the M225->Vertex Turbo.
Charts next post....new color scheme out of necessity, charts look very different now (sort of ran out of colors).
Charts Updated
Like I said, new color scheme. Intels are blue, Crucials are red, SandForces are green; newer/bigger within each color gets darker shades. Purple/aqua/orange are for Samsung 470, M225->Vertex Turbo, and whatever gets added later; each color can also be split for multiple shades later if needed.
Host Writes So Far
Normalized Writes So Far
The SSDs are not all the same size, these charts normalize for available NAND capacity.
Write Days So Far
Not all SSDs write at the same speed, these charts factor out write speeds and look at endurance as a function of time.
Host Writes vs. NAND Writes and Write Amplication
Based on reported or calculated NAND cycles from wear SMART values divided by total writes.
1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB
Double C300 Update
Last night just before I went to bed:
124.23TiB, 58 MWI, 2100 raw wear, 2048/1 reallocation, 61.9MiB/sec, MD5 OK
Just now:
127.213TiB, 57 MWI, 2150 raw wear, 2048/1 reallocation, 61.95MiB/sec, MD5 OK
Got the SF-1200 60GB with no LTT in my hands today Will post the intake screenshot and info then it's onto some compression tests then when that's done it's back to the endurance testing here
SF-1200 nLTT 60GB intake benchmarks and SMART:
SMART:
0-fill Anvil Benchmark:
46% Comp. Anvil Benchmark:
101% Comp. Anvil Benchmark:
AS-SSD:
Will be running with 35.9GiB of static data (from the 46% compression setting) and 12GB free. Not sure if I'll use 46%, 67%, or a no dedup variety of those for the actual testing.
Onto compression testing now, though
Also of note, I lost the extra (F2-F8) SMART values from the C300 when I started back up....I must have done some debug sequence to get them before
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