Asrock P67 Extreme4 UEFI & Drivers thread [Extreme6 & Pro3 owners welcome]

[swampy]

OC DNA won't let you use a profile from a different EFI, I tried when 1.8 wiped mine. 1.8 will save new profiles, though, when resetting.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Quick question.

Does this board support the Xeon E3-1270? Link

I know it supports the 1220, but that's the only xeon on the list.

Deciding between that, an i5 2400s (both to smiply push BCLK) or a cheap i5 2500K if I can find one.

[Ket]

Update:

I've managed to get 1866 9-9-9-25 1.5v in first try.
I might be able to get better timings with higher voltage but for now I just wanted to see the difference.
I've run short tests using LinX(AVX) with 1M and ALL (P.Size 29485, Memory 6656) and SuperPi.

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LinX(AVX) 1M test showed about 3 GFlops increase in avg. 110.6 --> 113.5 GFlops
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LinX(AVX) ALL test (P.Size 29512, Memory 6668) also showed about 3 GFlops increase. 125.2 --> 128.1 GFlops
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SuperPi - Before and After
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I see a bit of increase all across.
Should I be expecting more from upping the voltage and tightening the timings?
Or does this look OK to you guys.

For CPU / memory speed and timings, all looks about right. If you can tighten up the timings you will of course see times go down further.

is there a way to recovery a UEFI from a bad flash?

i've tried to use the windows flash on my mobo... and it freeze, had to restart and now mobo doesn't show video

This is why I tell people to NEVER use a Windows based flash program. ALWAYS use pure DOS or the built-in flash utility in the UEFI itself. Now your best bet is going to be to contact Asrock support, explain whats happened and ask if its possible for them to send a new pre-flashed chip to you.

Official 1.80 Bios wiped saved profiles for me. WTF? I thought they'd solved that - or is there something new which meant all profiles needed to be created a new?

Whenever you update the UEFI any saved profiles you had will be wiped. The issue you are remembering is when a user simply reset the UEFI saved profiles would get wiped.

Ket, has this changed with the EFI BIOS and Sandy Bridge. Can one utilize BIOS profiles created under one BIOS with a different BIOS?

AFAIK, you may be able to, but its certainly not really a good idea to use a profile from a older UEFI with a new UEFI. I don't know all the changes made with different UEFI versions a lot of it is for R&D eyes only. Suffice to say though saved profiles from a old UEFI + new UEFI = bad idea.

Quick question.

Does this board support the Xeon E3-1270? Link

I know it supports the 1220, but that's the only xeon on the list.

Deciding between that, an i5 2400s (both to smiply push BCLK) or a cheap i5 2500K if I can find one.

Honestly, I don't know. If the CPU isn't in the list its probably not a good idea to try. If you already have the CPU though, its worth putting it in and seeing what happens.

[jd299]

Just got this board!

I have a few questions before building my computer:

- The low mmio align option: Should I mess with that or just leave it as it is? I'm using Windows 7 64 bit and Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit. No overclocking.

- I got 8gb (2x4gb) RAM. It's DDR3 1600, 8-8-8-24 and 1.5V. For this board do I have to manually put the clock speed and timing or will it recognize it right away. If I do have to put it manually, how/where is it done? Oh and that 1.5V, do I have to enable some other option for that? Thanks!

- Also, should I use the drivers cd or just let Windows recognize it?

It's supposed to come with 6 standoff screws but I don't see them anywhere.

[Tunagoblin]

Just got this board!

I have a few questions before building my computer:

- The low mmio align option: Should I mess with that or just leave it as it is? I'm using Windows 7 64 bit and Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit. No overclocking.

- I got 8gb (2x4gb) RAM. It's DDR3 1600, 8-8-8-24 and 1.5V. For this board do I have to manually put the clock speed and timing or will it recognize it right away. If I do have to put it manually, how/where is it done? Oh and that 1.5V, do I have to enable some other option for that? Thanks!

- Also, should I use the drivers cd or just let Windows recognize it?

It's supposed to come with 6 standoff screws but I don't see them anywhere.

Isn't "low mmio align" for using more memory for 32Bit system, is it?
If so, you are using 64Bit OS so you don't have to mess with it. (I'm not 100% sure about this...)

You have to go in to the BIOS and in OC tab in the middle, you'll see "DRAM setting"
or something like that.
You can manually put voltage (DRAM Voltage section is in the first page of the OC Tab I think...)
and numbers to make it match with your default RAM setting. (you may leave the 1t/2t(1n/2n) to auto and see what it says in CPU-Z. But if you know the RAM is suited for 1 or 2t, just put that in manually also.
Leave everything else other than main 4 numbers (ex: 8-8-8-24) to auto since you aren't OC the RAM.

Don't use any driver than came with the mobo.
Download the latest driver from AsRock website or the components website.

Stand offs usually come with the case.
Some case has them pre-built in.

[Tunagoblin]

I have some question about the fan control in AXTU.
Is it supposed to Auto control the fans? or just the manual fan speed changer?
I have CPU fan connected to both of the CPU fan sockets. (1with 4-pin PWM, other is just the 3-pin)
Even I have the 4-pin PWM fan connected to 4 pin CPU fan socket, all it does is going for 100% all the time even where it is at less than the "target temp".
Is it not working or am I using it wrong?
Also there are 2 cpu fan sockets. I'm assuming the information from the 4-pin PWM controls the 3-pin side along with it.
(for using dual fan HSF like 212+, noctua NH-D14.)
Let me know if anyone know how to make this work.
Or do I have to use SpeedFan or some other app to do this?

[radier]

About MMIO: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4864108

[Tunagoblin]

About MMIO: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4864108

Cool. That's good to know

[jd299]

You can manually put voltage (DRAM Voltage section is in the first page of the OC Tab I think...)
and numbers to make it match with your default RAM setting. (you may leave the 1t/2t(1n/2n) to auto and see what it says in CPU-Z. But if you know the RAM is suited for 1 or 2t, just put that in manually also.
Leave everything else other than main 4 numbers (ex: 8-8-8-24) to auto since you aren't OC the RAM.

Thanks! What exactly is 1t/2t (1n/2n) and where can I find out which one my RAM uses before installing the sticks?

Any downside to manually putting the voltage or is it preferred?

Oh and also, the clock speed. Is that something I'd have to put manually?

[radier]

Just use embedded XMP profile (in DRAM section in UEFi set Profile1) and manually adjust DRAM Voltage to value you have on sticker.

[Ket]

Just got this board!

I have a few questions before building my computer:

- The low mmio align option: Should I mess with that or just leave it as it is? I'm using Windows 7 64 bit and Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit. No overclocking.

- I got 8gb (2x4gb) RAM. It's DDR3 1600, 8-8-8-24 and 1.5V. For this board do I have to manually put the clock speed and timing or will it recognize it right away. If I do have to put it manually, how/where is it done? Oh and that 1.5V, do I have to enable some other option for that? Thanks!

- Also, should I use the drivers cd or just let Windows recognize it?

It's supposed to come with 6 standoff screws but I don't see them anywhere.

1. No need to change MMIO, it'll be just fine.
2. Just load the XMP profile.
3. Its worth downloading the latest drivers from the relevent sources

I have some question about the fan control in AXTU.
Is it supposed to Auto control the fans? or just the manual fan speed changer?
I have CPU fan connected to both of the CPU fan sockets. (1with 4-pin PWM, other is just the 3-pin)
Even I have the 4-pin PWM fan connected to 4 pin CPU fan socket, all it does is going for 100% all the time even where it is at less than the "target temp".
Is it not working or am I using it wrong?
Also there are 2 cpu fan sockets. I'm assuming the information from the 4-pin PWM controls the 3-pin side along with it.
(for using dual fan HSF like 212+, noctua NH-D14.)
Let me know if anyone know how to make this work.
Or do I have to use SpeedFan or some other app to do this?

1. The CPU fan headers are controllable, the 4 pin header is there for the benefit of the intel stock coolers mainly but can be used with just 3 pin fans too.
2. AFAIK, the PWM fan header isn't controllable. Using Speedfan might work on it.
3. Just in case, don't connect any fans to the 4 pin auxillery header. Its meant for supplying additional power to the system and while connecting a fan to it isn't likely to do any harm theres no need to cause possible problems for yourself

Thanks! What exactly is 1t/2t (1n/2n) and where can I find out which one my RAM uses before installing the sticks?

Any downside to manually putting the voltage or is it preferred?

Oh and also, the clock speed. Is that something I'd have to put manually?

1. 1T/N and 2T/N are basically command rates. 1T/N is more agressive than 2T/N so will give better performance, your sticks will more than likely be 2N.
2. As above, load XMP profile.

[burebista]

Extreme4 1.90.

1. Update LAN boot ROM.
2. Update RAID ROM.

Whatever...

[Ket]

I suggested those option ROM updates for maximum compatibility (in the case of the RAID ROM) with devices. Good to see R&D even took it one step further and updated the LAN ROM as well

[radier]

1. No need to change MMIO, it'll be just fine.

Ket why don't you read other post?? Default value for Low MMIO Align is set to 64 and ASRock support suggest that if you are using 64bit OS you should set it to 1024. I have posted a link about that few post above....

[Ket]

By default with the UEFI I'm running its set to 1024 anyway, hence, no need to change it. Of course Asrock may of changed the default option with the newer UEFI which I haven't had time to test yet, but I don't know why they would change the default option to 64.

Also, while I'm not going to pay it any attention, watch your attitude. I've noticed you being very rude and at the very least off-tone with multiple people in this thread.

[radier]

Just mind your own business...you do not have a monopoly on being right.

P.S. If I am curt with someone it's because I hate people that don't know how to use search engine or manual.

[jd299]

What's the XMP profile and how's it loaded?

[radier]

Uncle google will tell you what the XMP Profile is.



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[Ket]

Just mind your own business...you do not have a monopoly on being right.

P.S. If I am curt with someone it's because I hate people that don't know how to use search engine or manual.

What I say 99% of the time has come from discussions I have had with my Asrock contacts, that would indeed suggest the info is right. Nobody needs to get snippy with anybody its all about helping Asrock users. Everybody has been good at ignoring when you do get rude or very off-tone and I'm saying now I won't have it ruin the good atmosphere we have got going in this thread. I'm asking you nicely here and trying to avoid having mods involved, theres no need to be curt with anyone.

[Ket]

What's the XMP profile and how's it loaded?

The XMP Profile is what most memory modules have pre-programmed into their speed data. Basically the XMP profile is a small segment of data stored that you can select to automatically have load the optimal advertised speed and timings. To load a XMP profile just enter UEFI, go to OC Tweaker and scroll down to "DRAM configuration", enter, and from there you can select to load the XMP profile

[Tunagoblin]

1. The CPU fan headers are controllable, the 4 pin header is there for the benefit of the intel stock coolers mainly but can be used with just 3 pin fans too.
2. AFAIK, the PWM fan header isn't controllable. Using Speedfan might work on it.
3. Just in case, don't connect any fans to the 4 pin auxillery header. Its meant for supplying additional power to the system and while connecting a fan to it isn't likely to do any harm theres no need to cause possible problems for yourself

Thanks Ket.
So what you are saying is the 4-pin CPU fan header isn't PWM?
I'm little confused...
I thought if I want to control a 3-pin fan, the MB has to support voltage control to change the fan speed.
I'm not even sure there's any setting like that in P67 Extreme4, though...
How are you guys controlling the CPU fan?
All going 100% all the time?
How about you Ket?

P.S.
Ket, I've noticed in your sig... your i5 was at 4.8 the other day and 4.7 then now 4.6...but the voltage hasn't been changed.
Is that how you get the 2133 stable?
Can't make 2133 w higher clock or something?
Just wondering... since we have very similarly acting chip.

[Ket]

Thanks Ket.
So what you are saying is the 4-pin CPU fan header isn't PWM?
I'm little confused...
I thought if I want to control a 3-pin fan, the MB has to support voltage control to change the fan speed.
I'm not even sure there's any setting like that in P67 Extreme4, though...
How are you guys controlling the CPU fan?
All going 100% all the time?
How about you Ket?

P.S.
Ket, I've noticed in your sig... your i5 was at 4.8 the other day and 4.7 then now 4.6...but the voltage hasn't been changed.
Is that how you get the 2133 stable?
Can't make 2133 w higher clock or something?
Just wondering... since we have very similarly acting chip.

When I say 4 pin auxillery connection, I'm talking about the one highlighted in the screenshot I tend to run the fans at 100% as I have high CFM low noise fans anyway on top of already modified cooling. Depending on humidity I can idle as low as 28c on my 2500k even with speedstep technologies turned off. I can run as high as 4.8GHz, but nomatter the tweaks my CPU just doesn't like to run past 4.5GHz with total stability.

[Tunagoblin]

When I say 4 pin auxillery connection, I'm talking about the one highlighted in the screenshot I tend to run the fans at 100% as I have high CFM low noise fans anyway on top of already modified cooling. Depending on humidity I can idle as low as 28c on my 2500k even with speedstep technologies turned off. I can run as high as 4.8GHz, but nomatter the tweaks my CPU just doesn't like to run past 4.5GHz with total stability.

No no. I know the molex 4-pin header is for extra juice for SLI/Xfire.
But you stated as follow:

1. The CPU fan headers are controllable, the 4 pin header is there for the benefit of the intel stock coolers mainly but can be used with just 3 pin fans too.
2. AFAIK, the PWM fan header isn't controllable. Using Speedfan might work on it.

The bold part that I'm confused about.
Since there are 2xCPU Fan header in Extreme4, one with 4-pin, other with 3-pin.
I thought the 4-pin CPU fan header is PWM since it's 4-pin. no?
According to you it is different between the 4-pin CPU fan header and PWM header?
Maybe I'm taking this "PWM" wrong...
I'm confused...

Oh and btw, what do you do to make you think your system is stable?
I'm asking this because the term "stable" I've seen on lots of forum posts but everyone does it different way.
Of course it depends on what each person do and wants from their computer, though.

This is what I do for now.
For quick test, I run LinX w/AVX "ALL" setting (6000MB+ for me since I have 8GB) run that 3 times.
And/or run Prime95 custom setting similar to "In place large FFTs" with "Run ffts in-place" checked.
Also make the min fft size to "1024". Run it for 20 min or so.
If it passes those tests and happy with the OC settings I have, I run Prime95 "blend" test for 10+ hours.
For RAM OC, just run Prime95 Blend for as long as it takes.
For GPU, I run 3Dmark11/vantage, Heaven 2.5, and just play BFBC2 max setting on 32ppl server.

[jd299]

By default with the UEFI I'm running its set to 1024 anyway, hence, no need to change it. Of course Asrock may of changed the default option with the newer UEFI which I haven't had time to test yet, but I don't know why they would change the default option to 64.

Also, while I'm not going to pay it any attention, watch your attitude. I've noticed you being very rude and at the very least off-tone with multiple people in this thread.

I'm using a 64 bit OS so I guess I won't touch the MMIO then (since it's apparently set to default to 1024 which is optimal for 64 bit systems right?)

Oh and I'm guessing the XMP profile will also load the voltage setting?

[radier]

Is it really so hard to find out and check it on your own screen? It's everything there. REALLY.