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Fastest 65nm was 2.6...

Thats what I'm saying.

Their maximum on 65nm was about 2.6-2.7 Ghz if they were to push frequencies and on 45nm the same core made it all the way to 3.7 Ghz.

To have the same freq. scaling they would need to start out with a 3.7 Ghz chip. Not that it matters with a different architecture...

Beep I know what you try to say, but AMD's 65nm process was bad, therefore it is bad to reference to it and extrapolate process improvements between nodes. On another hand 32nm process introduces Gate First and HKMG which somewhat balances things out. I doubt though it balances things enough for basing any clock improvement extrapolating AMD's 65nm->45nm transition. Besides we initially had 2.6GHz Agena to 3.0GHz Deneb! The difference you're referring to is for both mature processes. When BD launches 32nm SOI won't be mature enough to fully extract available performance. I expect close to 5GHz stable OC from BD style design on fully mature 32nm process after 2-3 design revisions. Initially I'm hoping to be able to clock 1 core towards 4.8-5GHz stable. All 8 cores @4.4GHz would be sweet for me as well. On air that is