Zambezi ES performance weirdness

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I would bother to respond if people would actually read what I say. Unfotunately it doesn't seem to match their reality. Perhaps if you go back to my statement about engineering samples not designed for performance you'd understand that you are beating a horse that is no longer alive.

I have hard time believing that AMD "designs" ES parts specially for validating (i would think that youre guys just take everything that works without it needing to clock like retail).
But if youre telling that.Im gonna ask a simple question.
Did AMD "design" ES samples to perform vastly different than retail parts in something else than clockspeeds/turbo alone ?If yes, thats crippling.If no, B0 has a bug.

@Informal, yes i read your blog, it makes more sense than what JF is saying.However there are only two ways out of it.Crippling or bug.Seems like people here dont like when someone points out the obvious.

@JF, without saying what AMD did to ES in this special "design" we wont know nothing and youre not willing to say so thats impass.

It would be good to know if there are newer samples, but i doubt JF is going to tell us.

Well, you skirted the issue, if BD cores were alot better than INTCs, the performance in the lower end would be there also and would be "good enough". Also, in that market segment, image has something to do with it also. When your cpu's are the fastest, the image of that even in the 80% segment may buy a AMD device because of all the hype. Plus, intagrators and OEMs will put alot more of your equipment into there products because of that also.

RussC

Performance in the lower-end IS there for AMD, with zacate and Llano now.So i dont get what are you saying, nobody buys zacate to do serious work.As for Image, yes it has something to do with sales, however depends where and with whom.Most people dont know who Intel nor AMD is.They know Sony or apple tho.