Quote Originally Posted by RussC View Post
Actually, I do work in the industry, and I believe one of our etchers is in one of your fabs.

With that said, You don't mean that the engineers that designed the processor dont have some idea of performance before final silicon? Um, that makes no sense to me! So AMD has no idea of where the BD cores stack up against competitors before final silicon, I have a hard time believing that.

RussC
We have plenty of data on where we believe the performance will be. That is like having a picture of a cake. But when you are mixing the batter and looking at a picture of cake, you have a ways to go.

People getting all wrapped up about engineering samples are really obsessing on the wrong points.

All of this talk about engineering samples is really annnoying because they are not designed around performance. So trying to measure something for performance when it is designed for validation is really pointless.