New Llano leaks

[duploxxx]

No I'm not confusing with bulldozer. Was Coolaler find the frequency bug of Llano before? It was a B0 chip. Soon clarified by those taiwanese, that system couldn't read the frequency correctly. So I guess that was a ES chip but not a final retail one. As for the llano chip that tweaktown have, it could be buggy as well, of course it could also be a healthy retail one too.

the issue has nothing to do with the B0 stepping

edit. look at the list of SKU below and then see some screenshots from Coolaler, some parts do mention correct the 2700MH and miltiplier while other parts are providing 3.x... it's BIOS and SW reading issue.

No, I'm not mixing anything.

if radeonfanboy would use some decent CPUID info we could know what stepping that SKU has....

[dartaz]

The top model Llano is going to be clocked at 2.9GHz and it won't support CPU turbo
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-a-se...led/12620.html



We've seen some few AMD fans claiming that this is going have 4GHz clock speed @ stock ! Those who made such crazy claims should be disappointed

[almighty15]

The top model Llano is going to be clocked at 2.9GHz and it won't support CPU turbo
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-a-se...led/12620.html



We've seen some few AMD fans claiming that this is going have 4GHz clock speed @ stock ! Those who made such crazy claims should be disappointed

Do you not see the second model down? Base 2.4Ghz / Boost 2.7Ghz?

And the forth model down? Base 2.1Ghz / Boost 2.4Ghz?

[dartaz]

Do you not see the second model down? Base 2.4Ghz / Boost 2.7Ghz?

And the forth model down? Base 2.1Ghz / Boost 2.4Ghz?

Are you trying to say that I'm blind ?

If you read my words carefully you would notice that I was talking about the top model. I didn't say that all Llano models don't support turbo

The point is that Llano is below 3GHz, even in turbo mode. But we heard some few people claiming that will have 4GHz stock speed or 4GHz in turbo mode.

[jimbo75]

If you think Llano's top desktop parts won't have turbo you are quite deluded. Also, Donanimhaber has shown about 5 different slides about Llano in the past month alone, constantly upgrading them as the launch nears.

[DarthShader]

Those who made such crazy claims should be disappointed

I thought it would be above 3Ghz and am disappointed anyways. Otoh, I thought GPU clock would be lower, so it pans out I guess.

I also find it hard to belive there will be no Turbo at all. We'll see in a few days.

[duploxxx]

The top model Llano is going to be clocked at 2.9GHz and it won't support CPU turbo

We've seen some few AMD fans claiming that this is going have 4GHz clock speed @ stock ! Those who made such crazy claims should be disappointed

There are always people who live in dreams .....these are 65W and 100W parts with GPU, with a bit of sence you could know in front that such a GHZ range is never feasible.

I thought it would be above 3Ghz and am disappointed anyways. Otoh, I thought GPU clock would be lower, so it pans out I guess.

I also find it hard to belive there will be no Turbo at all. We'll see in a few days.

I am so dissapointed that you are dissapointed since the chip doesn't get to 3.0ghz mark so dissapointing, you wouldn't buy it anyhow so why care or post.

Radeonfanboy already posted some very interesting tests which show a very good improvement of Husky cores and OC capabilities.

[DarthShader]

I am so dissapointed that you are dissapointed since the chip doesn't get to 3.0ghz mark so dissapointing, you wouldn't buy it anyhow so why care or post.

So, among your many excellent qualities, you also have the ability to read people's minds? Wow.

No wait, skratch that, doesn't work, since I actualy do consider Llano, due to limited budget. Since my interest is OpenCL and how to take advantage of Fusion, what better choice would there be for me? OC is of course always an option, but it forces you to get a proper sized case and cooler. A lone Llano with no descrete GPU would like odd in a Raven case, wouldn't it?

[undone]

Llano Sabine platform power consumption and some other test

http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2011/06/...m-innovations/

[duploxxx]

So, among your many excellent qualities, you also have the ability to read people's minds? Wow.

No wait, skratch that, doesn't work, since I actualy do consider Llano, due to limited budget. Since my interest is OpenCL and how to take advantage of Fusion, what better choice would there be for me? OC is of course always an option, but it forces you to get a proper sized case and cooler. A lone Llano with no descrete GPU would like odd in a Raven case, wouldn't it?

so i will meet you then next week?
https://amdfusion.wingateweb.com/por...MreAKG9O9WKdct

here is also some more information
http://developer.amd.com/zones/OpenC...s/default.aspx

look at the specs from the A8-3800 and A8-3850 they have a rated TDP of 65W and 100W with only a difference of 200MHZ, clearly that must mean something.... also the tests from Radeon showed already a lot of OC potentional.

besides that, look at the vantage cpu score from Radeon stock it provides 10038 CPU while a athlon x4 630 only has approx 9300 @ 2.8, so this more or less equals phenom 940 3.0 the one with L3 cache.
Athlon x4 630 = 95W TDP on 45nm and the graphics 5550 (more or less) is a 40W TDP.... not that bad for the first revision on 32nm and actually if you look at the A8-3800 with the 2.4/2.7 and 6550D in a 65W that seems to be really nice for a first release which will go against the i3 2120.

[DarthShader]

so i will meet you then next week?
https://amdfusion.wingateweb.com/por...MreAKG9O9WKdct

here is also some more information
http://developer.amd.com/zones/OpenC...s/default.aspx

You mean, if I am attending the developer summit? I'd love to, but I am at the opposite end of the world, in Europe. If you're going, then I am jealous.

look at the specs from the A8-3800 and A8-3850 they have a rated TDP of 65W and 100W with only a difference of 200MHZ, clearly that must mean something....

It's actualy a 500mhz difference for all cores. But since the GPU clock is the same, that still doesn't quite explain the difference. It's just two days left...

[duploxxx]

You mean, if I am attending the developer summit? I'd love to, but I am at the opposite end of the world, in Europe. If you're going, then I am jealous.


It's actualy a 500mhz difference for all cores. But since the GPU clock is the same, that still doesn't quite explain the difference. It's just two days left...

also from Europe btw. I'll see what i can grab from the official slides from AMD if you want.
yes it is 500Mhz difference but not at Turbo, so will depend a bit how the APU will handle load and the effect of GPU powerconsumption on the CPU turbo. only few more days.

If you look close in the end of the AMD video you can actually see that they compared the A8-3500 against 3 different Intel configs.

USB3 the i7 2620M
power the i3 2310M which is a 35W TDP, strange they took this one and not the one below, afterall the i5 will be the real competitor for A8
graphics the i5 2410M 35W TDP which is a 2.3-2.9 with HD3000 650-1200.

[DarthShader]

also from Europe btw. I'll see what i can grab from the official slides from AMD if you want.

I doubt the slides will be kept a secret. I think the speeches are going to be the interesting part.

I wonder what will happen if the IGP is disabled for discrete GPU operation. There should be huge TDP headroom locked up. Will there be an automatic CPU clock increase?

[tbone8ty]

hmm 100 mhz bus clock? interesting

a8-3800_5.jpg

[El Gappo]

Fingers crossed for a black edition, would love to see how these things go with cold.

[Macadamia]

100Mhz bus clock might be related to power savings in general, since CPU -> Xbar is on die now and doesn't play by the same rules that external interfaces used to.

So yeah, RIP HTT ;D

[richierich]

i3-2100s are on sale at Frys. Almost pulled the trigger but had to quickly slap myself and remember that Llano is going to be released soon .

[jjj]

I doubt the slides will be kept a secret. I think the speeches are going to be the interesting part.

I wonder what will happen if the IGP is disabled for discrete GPU operation. There should be huge TDP headroom locked up. Will there be an automatic CPU clock increase?

AMD will webcast the keynotes,more details here http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....ews&id=1571329

[Daveburt714]

Some Llano reviews.... WooHoo!

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...verclock!.aspx
Follow the link from BSN ot Coolaler for even more info.

Based on this quote from Coolaler I sure hope there's an unlocked (Black Edition) Version!

Overclocking parts. After a series of tests, not pressure the highest probably to 47x117=5499MHz, FSB has 47 is the highest. Such a fairly impressive, originally the default frequency is 2.4GHz, has more than twice is almost, but also because the relationship is not locked frequency multiplier engineering sample, commercial version may be locked multipliers, quite unfortunately, if the market can also be played, but kind of interesting.

Reguardless, looks like a FUN chip!


EDIT: I was just excited to see a review.... Looks like there are some problems with the sample.
My statement above still stands though! The FUN part... :}

[Alex-Ro]

So when will liano actually hit the market?

[informal]

Some Llano reviews.... WooHoo!

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...verclock!.aspx
Follow the link from BSN ot Coolaler for even more info.

Based on this quote from Coolaler I sure hope there's an unlocked (Black Edition) Version!

Overclocking parts. After a series of tests, not pressure the highest probably to 47x117=5499MHz, FSB has 47 is the highest. Such a fairly impressive, originally the default frequency is 2.4GHz, has more than twice is almost, but also because the relationship is not locked frequency multiplier engineering sample, commercial version may be locked multipliers, quite unfortunately, if the market can also be played, but kind of interesting.

Reguardless, looks like a FUN chip!


EDIT: I was just excited to see a review.... Looks like there are some problems with the sample.
My statement above still stands though! The FUN part... :}

Sorry but he didn't hit 5.4Ghz... We have already discussed this,it's a bug.Real clock is approximately 2x lower than that.
But why you guys read about ES when we have real thing(retail) already tested here ? OCed to 3.77Ghz on CPU side and 45% on the GPU side. I summarized the performance difference Vs SB here.

[FlanK3r]

dave look at my comments in coolaler forum...Later he began with CPU-Z to use HWinfo....CPU-Z "thinking", baseclock is 200 MHz, but this is not right...it is 100 MHz (look at hwinfo spec)

[dave_graham]

So when will liano actually hit the market?

dave: introduction is in July; availability shortly thereafter

Some Llano reviews.... WooHoo!
Based on this quote from Coolaler I sure hope there's an unlocked (Black Edition) Version!

dave: black editions are planned but Scorpius should be the first recipient.

dave

[jjj]

should be more like introduction tomorrow; availability right away (for notebook Llano at least)

[SkullCracka]

APU smashed new IGP world records with Gigabyte A75M-UD2H ( 3Dvantage P6160 igp )


http://forums.tweaktown.com/overcloc...p6160-igp.html