Quote Originally Posted by RussC View Post
Yes, OEM wont have time to integrate the CPU into systems in time for holiday buying. Thats a large chunk of change for the Q3/4 qtrs and full year earnings. They will get retail sales, but OEMs are a big part sales also.

RussC
Thing is, OEMs get CPUs faster than the retail, thats for one, and second, AM3+ is launched as of today, so the only thing OEM has to do is insert the chip, which they can do easily in the 3 month timeframe.Theres no problem in here really.

Quote Originally Posted by slaveondope View Post
That's it I'm buying a Sandy Bridge rig...
Give me fsb clocking or give me hell
True dat!

Quote Originally Posted by undone View Post
At last comes the clarifications. Looks like amd has changed its plan about APU & bulldozer, perhaps APU is in great need but yield is not enough for Llano, so they decided to sacrifice bulldozer, by postponing it about 2 month.
I'm afraid it's the long-term strategy, that put APU first, then CPU later, to feed the need of APU. I think it's right about this strategy but some high-end user maybe disappointed about this.
BTW good to hear about the Trinity sample is out, they may have enough time to plan this "bulldozer+APU" product.

Edit: I think the process node is health because Llano has no problem, the postponing is just a new strategy, being decided when the CEO, Dirk Meyer was left.
Healthy process node doesnt mean BD is healthy.65nm was healthy for amd when they failed with agena.I dont think theyre sacrificing BD in order to ship more llano either, as theyre making much more $ per chip with server and desktop BD`s.BD is probably just not ready as everyone says.