Bulldozers first screens

[undone]

This just made me LOL litterally,you do know that intels big dog Ivy bridge chip just got delays to 2h2012 right?

When a rumor is start we just wait the rumor be clarify, or somebody may complain about the rumor, but when you continue discussing based on the rumors are TRUE, you may dive into flame war.
Don't believe in Fudo, nobody can sure whether IB is delayed, and nobody can sure amd is delayed, too.

[duploxxx]

The second slide says "up to 8 MB total L3 Cache" and "Zambezi Core" too, so it's just like a copy of some other fake we saw...2 or 3 days ago except presented in a nicer table? Jesus this is getting ridiculous now.

oh look now we see some other info, do i still need to say in every thread that those BD xx10 and BD xxxxP are fake? gues not anymore, we have a new rumor

[undone]

oh look now we see some other info, do i still need to say in every thread that those BD xx10 and BD xxxxP are fake? gues not anymore

Sincerely waiting you to comment on the delay rumor.

[jimbo75]

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if all these 'leaks' are orchastrated by intel's investment wing (who've been implicated in stock manipulation in the past) and/or AMD shorts to affect AMD stock value. AMD finance message boards and tech forums are infested with intel shills and viral marketeers. It's glaringly obvious. Here's a couple examples.

Elmer Phudd the moderator is the biggest intel shill around. And now moderating an AMD finance message board?

http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/sub...ubjectid=36138

Yahoo AMD finance message boards are a cesspool of intel shills (set your rating to 1 star to see any relevant posts).

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/mb/AMD

The same guy necro-posing this thread in Anandtech forums is posting the same crap on Yahoo forums.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=24796

That's just the tip of the iceburg.

AMD has said repeatedly that performance numbers will only be revealed through their blogs. So are all these fake and unrealistic 'rumors' floating around just intel fanboys having fun? Doubt it. Is it designed to disrupt and manipulate stocks, cause uncertainty? It's starting to look that way.

They are all part of the same crowd. chipper/terrace/chipguy and Savantu has a few alts along with Jumping Jack (who I've seen parroting Savantu word-for-word on the techreport) and Paul Demone is pulling the strings in the background.

[informal]

Ok don't get paranoid guys,focus on the Zambezi/Scorpius .

[DarthShader]

oh look now we see some other info, do i still need to say in every thread that those BD xx10 and BD xxxxP are fake? gues not anymore

You know, you could just say straight out what you know, maybe somebody would listen then.... Anyways, how do you know this pic or your own source are better than the previous "leaks"?

Gotta admit, this newer naming scheme better, will more clearly differentiate the 125W and 95W models... but the "old" one wasn't bad either, if there's going to be similar clockspeeds on both TDP versions, with a "P" to note the difference. If the "new" scheme means none of the direvatives of the basic 8 core model is going to have its clock as high as the higher TDP model, then I guess I am fine with that.

[Olivon]

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if all these 'leaks' are orchastrated by intel's investment wing (who've been implicated in stock manipulation in the past) and/or AMD shorts to affect AMD stock value. AMD finance message boards and tech forums are infested with intel shills and viral marketeers. It's glaringly obvious. Here's a couple examples.

Elmer Phudd the moderator is the biggest intel shill around. And now moderating an AMD finance message board?

http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/sub...ubjectid=36138

Yahoo AMD finance message boards are a cesspool of intel shills (set your rating to 1 star to see any relevant posts).

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/mb/AMD

The same guy necro-posing this thread in Anandtech forums is posting the same crap on Yahoo forums.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=24796

That's just the tip of the iceburg.

AMD has said repeatedly that performance numbers will only be revealed through their blogs. So are all these fake and unrealistic 'rumors' floating around just intel fanboys having fun? Doubt it. Is it designed to disrupt and manipulate stocks, cause uncertainty? It's starting to look that way.

[Mats]

The same guy necro-posing this thread in Anandtech forums is posting the same crap on Yahoo forums.

Epic typo.

[Manicdan]

You know, you could just say straight out what you know, maybe somebody would listen then.... Anyways, how do you know this pic or your own source are better than the previous "leaks"?

Gotta admit, this newer naming scheme better, will more clearly differentiate the 125W and 95W models... but the "old" one wasn't bad either, if there's going to be similar clockspeeds on both TDP versions, with a "P" to note the difference. If the "new" scheme means none of the direvatives of the basic 8 core model is going to have its clock as high as the higher TDP model, then I guess I am fine with that.

i hope the TDP thing is accurate and used. back with older generations the turbo was simply a set number. so we had cpus using like 110w marked as 125W cpu, but with BD i hope this means that if you take the same system and swap out the 8110, 6110, and 4110, and run the same app on all of them, we get very similar power consumption on all of them.

[FlanK3r]

srry, but Intel make delayed chips no first! With Clarkdale architecture we seen more than 1Q delayed than was first plans (it was first 32nm chip for INtel). NOw, with IB we can see next 1Q delay, its new 22nm...1Q with new technology is not so tragic.

[duploxxx]

You know, you could just say straight out what you know, maybe somebody would listen then.... Anyways, how do you know this pic or your own source are better than the previous "leaks"?

Gotta admit, this newer naming scheme better, will more clearly differentiate the 125W and 95W models... but the "old" one wasn't bad either, if there's going to be similar clockspeeds on both TDP versions, with a "P" to note the difference. If the "new" scheme means none of the direvatives of the basic 8 core model is going to have its clock as high as the higher TDP model, then I guess I am fine with that.

I didn't state that these weren't fake... al I mentioned was that these new leaks also mention different naming schema .

did you see a P anymhere on the new slides.

You only know for real when you know a real source, not one that once and a while gets some info by accident or if really lucky or just isn't sure what he got.

Sincerely waiting you to comment on the delay rumor.

who says this is a rumor or true? few days more to find out.
You know the fun part, I already read some news threads where they now also mention LIano mobile and desktop is delayed.... or maybe the june launch will be the server BD launch i.s.o the desktop version.

time to start the rumor

[freeloader]

Makes you wonder if the lack of any types of REAL benchmarks with only 2 to 3 weeks until release are due to a supposed delay.
Perhaps no one has working final silicon right now. That would be scary.

[tifosi]

...if sandy is a better performer they have no reason to put out ivy bridge yet since they will pick up sales from people that were waiting to see how BD will stack up against sandys.

Things get delayed from both sides,its not intels fault that BD is not out yet.It is AMDs fault that Ivy is backed up tho.There is no reason for intel to put out Ivy since there is no BD yet.They can easily sell a crap load of sandys while they wait for BD to hit the streets.

So you're the one who'll cut his own face to spite others? Intel's shareholders will bloody murder the people in charge if they found out that they are holding out on new tech which will potentially give them higher margins per chip. Well, smaller chip mostly translates in reduced cost and the shareholders love nothing more than a bigger share of the pie.

Now BD... i know someone personally... i guess that person wouldn't mind giving out the date of the launch... let me see what i can dig up! However, it is a different region and i guess the availability dates may not exactly be the same as in US.

[chew*]

Makes you wonder if the lack of any types of REAL benchmarks with only 2 to 3 weeks until release are due to a supposed delay.
Perhaps no one has working final silicon right now. That would be scary.

I'm sure some have working silicon, not final however.

I hate to say I told you so but......I told you so

[Skratch]

So you're the one who'll cut his own face to spite others? Intel's shareholders will bloody murder the people in charge if they found out that they are holding out on new tech which will potentially give them higher margins per chip. Well, smaller chip mostly translates in reduced cost and the shareholders love nothing more than a bigger share of the pie.

Now BD... i know someone personally... i guess that person wouldn't mind giving out the date of the launch... let me see what i can dig up! However, it is a different region and i guess the availability dates may not exactly be the same as in US.

You do know intel makes its money from the server market right,like a 8 billion dollar profit last year from there server side.

Those chips are 1300 each.Intel is selling sandy just fine and will wait it out.I mean they did just put out sandy to begin with and we have been waiting for BD for over 5 years.Do you honeslty think there investors will murder them for waiting 3 months longer to come out with Ivy? what about the money they lost in the sandy recall that they rushed out.

[demonkevy666]

I'm sure some have working silicon, not final however.

I hate to say I told you so but......I told you so

you just mad you ain't got one to play with on LN2.

I want to know what calendar AMD is using cause the one I got in the retail store I work in says it's already Q3

[danielkza]

i hope the TDP thing is accurate and used. back with older generations the turbo was simply a set number. so we had cpus using like 110w marked as 125W cpu, but with BD i hope this means that if you take the same system and swap out the 8110, 6110, and 4110, and run the same app on all of them, we get very similar power consumption on all of them.

This is fine in theory, but in practice clock speed doesn't scale linearly with power, and you simply can't get above some clocks without bumping up the voltage too much, and I'm sure AMD is not keen on overclocking all it's CPUs above spec just so their power consumption matches.

[FlanK3r]

I know about 2 people with good working samples. But this is all, what I can to say

[danielkza]

I know about 2 people with good working samples. But this is all, what I can to say

Get them drunk and give us NUMBEEEEERSSS!!!

[felix_w]

I know about 2 people with good working samples. But this is all, what I can to say

Get them drunk and give us NUMBEEEEERSSS!!!

Yeah!, 4-5 sips of absinth....you're czech, you know best...

[Postmodum]

And some Gold Strike too ...
Everyone i know makes a bad face when i talk about Gold Strike, so i guess everyone got drunk with it ... ehhehe

It's a good mix ... Absint + GoldStrike = Easy BD :P

[xlimit]

I know about 2 people with good working samples. But this is all, what I can to say

All I want to know is faster or not than i7 2600K

[ReKcOlNu]

This just made me LOL litterally,you do know that intels big dog Ivy bridge chip just got delays to 2h2012 right?

Why would they delay there ivy bridge? because maybe they are waiting to see how well BD does against sandy. if sandy is a better performer they have no reason to put out ivy bridge yet since they will pick up sales from people that were waiting to see how BD will stack up against sandys.

Things get delayed from both sides,its not intels fault that BD is not out yet.It is AMDs fault that Ivy is backed up tho.There is no reason for intel to put out Ivy since there is no BD yet.They can easily sell a crap load of sandys while they wait for BD to hit the streets.

Ivy's launch has nothing to do with what AMD has going on, Intel's isn't going to sit on a new process/fabs that cost billions of dollars in R&D, they need to turn that R&D investment back into profits ASAP. From what I've read FinFet is no piece of cake to make, Intel has been working on it for eight years already, when its ready to mass produce they aren't going to wait on anyone, doesn't matter what AMD or anyone else has.

In the meantime, If BD starts to cut in on Intel's share they would just make some price adjustments (price cuts). I'd love to see a CPU price war!

[chew*]

you just mad you ain't got one to play with on LN2.

Yes that must be it

[FlanK3r]

heh, I cant say it. But, its not bad, thats all.