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[Mats]

that is a slide from december 2010 roadmap

the main thing is missing on the bottom * see footnotes at end of presentation: Production schedules are preliminary and subject to change without notice

Yes I know, it's all there in the pic, that's why I said:

feel free to post some more recent info

You don't have an answer, right?

[duploxxx]

Yes I know, it's all there in the pic, that's why I asked for more recent info.

You don't have an answer, right?

you know what they say... can't say I have can't say it is.

I can only say stop using the fake model lists and GHZ rumours.

[Mats]

I can only say stop using the fake model lists and GHZ rumours.

I tried telling people to stop.
Everybody's talking, nobody's listening, because it's more fun to discuss utter lies than waiting silently for the truth to show up.

[keithlm]

Also, there is supposedly some situations where having the work done on 2 modules rather than 1 can hurt performance. Shared resources can be an advantage sometimes.

We don't really know yet whether your statement is true or not. We can theorize that in certain situations it could be true. But in real world applications it might not happen. (Unless you have a source that has broken NDA?)

PLUS: That kind of situation would probably happen much less often with the BD architecture than it would with the competition's architecture.

We'll all just have to wait and see.

I think it will be interesting to see what benchmarks that have been extremely important to the competition for the last few years might suddenly become much less important. (Or what older versions will stop being quoted.)

[BeepBeep2]

Franck Delattre has an 8 core FX CPU.

Obviously engineers have working production samples.

[Kobaltrock]

Agreed. People have hard time trying to figure out if a model runs a 3.6 or 3.8 GHz from a pshopped slide, without knowing the actual performance at all - TWO WEEKS FROM LAUNCH.


And before some smart guy once again says "NDA":

I know.

But still, impressive.

You know, everyone is assuming BD will launch in two weeks, but AMD said Q2, and that could mean at the end of June.

They might show something in two weeks, but that could just be Llano. We just don't know.

[mattkosem]

You know, everyone is assuming BD will launch in two weeks, but AMD said Q2, and that could mean at the end of June.

They might show something in two weeks, but that could just be Llano. We just don't know.

The difference between 2 weeks and the end of June is basically only two weeks anyways. 2, 4, whatever

--Matt

[Brother Esau]

Enron Of cpu's....

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I know, my server feels dirty and ashamed I hate Intel with a passion! But what are you going to do when single socket AMD Server / Workstation solutions are gimped?

[Dresdenboy]

What you think is a 9 is most likely a 1. So on the FX-8130P it probably says TC + 1.2GHz and on the FX-8110 it seems to say TC + 1.0GHz.
The stock frequency looks to be 3.2GHz for the FX-8130P just like you guys posted and probably 3.0GHz for the FX-8110 (though it seems eiher a 3 or 6 could fit in the place of the 0).

Agreed. I've put my interpretation (there are several possible) in my sig, just to repeat it (helps with some learning curves about POVs and interpretations) Now I'm waiting for the first "news" popping up that AMD moved the 8130P and x110 models to September to give them higher turbo clock frequencies after deciding that 400 MHz would be too low

One thing I didn't understand was how one could put a "4" after the "+" (would mean +4.x GHz)... BTW, the "6" in "1.6" could also be a 0 and so on.

[informal]

Hey Dresdenboy,Asus is officially saying the slide is not from them .May be that they are covering their asses ,now that it is out.. In any case , your prediction along with mAJORD's,is the closest I have seen.

[spicypixel]

AMD must have hired the FSB.

[Dresdenboy]

Hey Dresdenboy,Asus is officially saying the slide is not from them .May be that they are covering their asses ,now that it is out.. In any case , your prediction along with mAJORD's,is the closest I have seen.

Yep, just read it:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...dozer-models/1

[duploxxx]

again FAKE- old bad info maybe on page 27 of this thread this slide will pop-up again as true info which again can be used by 25 news sites having all no clue.

only few sites are calm on the news.... guess what they have more info then the fakes, so they know its garbage and wont post it.

[Olivon]

w0mbat got what he wants ...

[Warwian]

Agreed. I've put my interpretation (there are several possible) in my sig, just to repeat it (helps with some learning curves about POVs and interpretations) Now I'm waiting for the first "news" popping up that AMD moved the 8130P and x110 models to September to give them higher turbo clock frequencies after deciding that 400 MHz would be too low

One thing I didn't understand was how one could put a "4" after the "+" (would mean +4.x GHz)... BTW, the "6" in "1.6" could also be a 0 and so on.

Me and DarthShader were debating that quite a bit in the other thread. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=271228)

And I guess I'm to blame for the "4s", I tried to figure out an alternative to the "1s" in the turbo section of the slide because a turbo of +1.2GHz seemed unlikely. After all we were just speculating trying to figure them out.

Nice to see some more suggestions for the FX-4110 and FX-6110 though.
I don't personally believe FX-6110 has a potential turbo frequency of +1.6GHz; I believe it says +1.0GHz for both the FX-6110 and FX-4110.
For the stock frequency of the FX-4110 I also believe it says either 3.6 or 3.8GHz but that one is really hard to make out as nothing seems to match that group of pixels.

I guess the P in FX-8130P could potentially mean a more powerful and aggressive turbo (1.2GHz vs 1.0GHz for the others).

Hey Dresdenboy,Asus is officially saying the slide is not from them .May be that they are covering their asses ,now that it is out.. In any case , your prediction along with mAJORD's,is the closest I have seen.

Those numbers Dresdenboy posted have been proposed by a number of people now, including me and DarthShader in the other thread on saturday. We didn't manage to figure out that the FX-8110 might be clocked at 3.0GHz though. That is until Hornet331 came with that suggestion.

Anyways, I believe everyone in this thread realize that the slide probably is fake and that the provided naming schemes probably aren't accurate. But it is still interesting to speculate in these things and I don't think we should just wait and see like some people seem to believe.

[Formula350]

this might be a catch 22 though,

if you have 4 threads on 2 modules, you get 10% less perf, but you might get 15% better power savings compared to having 4 threads on 4 modules. that extra power savings turning into higher clocks and might get you 10% faster speeds, resulting in the same exact performance in the end.

so the question will be, does 4ghz on the FX-8110 equal 4.4ghz on the FX-4110, and which one will consume more power when running 4 threads

Yea, that's a good point. I didn't really consider the Turbo bonus any :\ Out of sight, out of mind; I have no Turbo, therefore I don't even factor it into situations heh

Also, there is supposedly some situations where having the work done on 2 modules rather than 1 can hurt performance. Shared resources can be an advantage sometimes.

Yea, but John said it requires added programing or specific coding in order to take full advantage of the shared resources design :\ I had mentioned that earlier, where he went on to say that M$ was working on implementing that for future OSes. I figure it's going to be in Win8, but naturally I'm hoping for a Win7 patch to utilize it.

We don't really know yet whether your statement is true or not. We can theorize that in certain situations it could be true. But in real world applications it might not happen. (Unless you have a source that has broken NDA?)

See response above...

[haylui]

http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-s...t-202051.shtml

is this for real?
why there is always mobo maker who release the news on behalf of AMD?

[Mats]

http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-s...t-202051.shtml

is this for real?
why there is always mobo maker who release the news on behalf of AMD?

That's from Sweclockers, already posted a couple of times.

[Dresdenboy]

http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-s...t-202051.shtml

is this for real?
why there is always mobo maker who release the news on behalf of AMD?

The 3.8/4.2 GHz for 8130P is based on speculation. The delay too. There was a list of 8150, 8100, 6100, 4100 models to be launched in September. What does that mean for 8130P, 8110, 6110, 4110?

I prefer thinking using my own head

[mAJORD]

anyway the base frequency really is that, a base frequency. It's as usefull(less?) as the base frequency of Core iX (since they almost always sit 1 bin over base even fully loaded)

[Postmodum]

By launching the BD in September, they will loose all the momentum ...
If that's true, fail.
Those who really need a system now will go with Sandy... and those w8 for a serious upgrade later this year, will w8 to see what intel will bring.

So... mega-major-ultra fail ...
With this decision AMD can start digging the hole of it's own grave... :x
If it was like... 1 month dealy ... but no ... can be 3 months if rumors are correct.

Mehhh... :x

[muziqaz]

classic. But what about those who need new PC in September? Or is everyone on earth are upgrading right now?

[Postmodum]

Muzi... frustration of waiting for something is sometimes stronger
I don't have a problem with it ... many will not have problem with it. But it's all about marketing and market momentum

Launching a solution in June-July would be perfect since you have some market space to grow a solution.
People know what SandyBridge is capable of. With the refresh it can only get better and users know it.

By launching the BD really near the launch of SB refresh will create the same situation that the launching of the BD is creating... many people that were thinking in going with Sandy Bridge decided to w8 a little longer to see what's the buzz about BD.

That's one of the problems. Other problem is the "mis-synced" information between motherboard manufactures and AMD.
But we should keep in mind that there's no official information about this and it can be a "destructive rumor" to cool down the buzz...
We'll see... but usually, these rumors end to be true ...

[nr4]

But what about those who need new PC in September? Or is everyone on earth are upgrading right now?

But what about people who need a new PC in JUNE, JULY and AUGUST, plus the ones that want an upgrade?

AMD needs to make "cash" quick, a delay like that is really bad for them.
I hope the delay is somehow misunderstood and represents something else. I hope so

[Mats]

So... mega-major-ultra fail ...
With this decision AMD can start digging the hole of it's own grave... :x

Can we just stop the drama for a while?

Wait for something more reliable than these rumors, until then just relax.

If AMD will launch it three months later, it's for a good reason.
It's not a "bad decision", as in "Yeah we have this new CPU that's the greatest thing we've ever made, but let's postpone the launch, just to see how long we can survive on X6."

We don't need another TLB (or 1155 B2) failure.