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    Preliminary Bulldozer and Llano Pricing Revealed

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    Llano pricing is down right insane if its true 0_o

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    Jeez... that cheap? ...

    Hmmmmm ... let's see how it goes then ... :P
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    Can anyone list? Image is blocked due to work.
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    Sure thing. Here you go:

    FX-8130P = $320
    FX-8110 = $290
    FX-6110 = $240
    FX-4110 = $190
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    wow...is any of them unlocked?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    wow...is any of them unlocked?
    All FX should be unlocked. Llano I wouldn't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Esau View Post
    On a side note: I believe I will build a new HTPC with one of the new Fusion chips
    The correct way to say it is:

    "On a side note: I believe I will build a new HTPC with a new Fusion chip."

    Saying "one of the" is kind of redundant when you can just say "a".

    Sorry... I couldn't resist... it was all too easy... like shooting fish in a barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Esau View Post
    The proper way to ask "Are" any of them Unlocked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    surry i has speak no english long time ages ago
    LOl,.. Nice! glad to see something other then bickering. Every CPU launch AMD section turns into a strange place. Some people get all over worked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    surry i has speak no english long time ages ago
    sigged.
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    I wouldn't trust this info. 99% likely that this is just yet another rumour.
    I suppose the top model should be unlocked. Guess this is the difference between FX8130P and FX8110 (that and TDP).
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    The top model is also a speed bump of 0.2MHz.

    If the pricing is real, that slots the top FX8 inbetween i7-2600 and 980x? Thats would be pretty good for AMD!

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    It should be faster than a stock 980X, otherwise it's a flop... It's been out for over a year, and there are a bunch more Intel chips coming in Q3-Q4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    It should be faster than a stock 980X, otherwise it's a flop... It's been out for over a year, and there are a bunch more Intel chips coming in Q3-Q4.
    lol. why does it have to be faster than 980x? so if VW releases a new golf 2 years after mercedes releases a SLK, the golf has to be faster than the SLK?

    one word for you: price range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    lol. why does it have to be faster than 980x? so if VW releases a new golf 2 years after mercedes releases a SLK, the golf has to be faster than the SLK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    one word for you: price range.
    That's two words. I'll reply with two words as well: "lagging behind".
    They manage to catch up just to get stomped by IB in mid range (possibly partially SB as well, it beats 980X in quite a few cases) and SB-E in top range.
    So much for the BD hype and all those long years of waiting and development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Car analogies = instant fail.
    no. im german, born in stuttgart (the cars was invented there, its home of mercedes & porsche) and living in munich (bmw). so car analogies = the best thing ever. everyone knows cars, so its easy to understand.


    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    That's two words. I'll reply with two words as well: "lagging behind".
    They manage to catch up just to get stomped by IB in mid range (possibly partially SB as well, it beats 980X in quite a few cases) and SB-E in top range.
    So much for the BD hype and all those long years of waiting and development.
    no, BD wont lagg behind. it depends what u r doing with it. server will rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    no. im german, born in stuttgart (the cars was invented there, its home of mercedes & porsche) and living in munich (bmw). so car analogies = the best thing ever. everyone knows cars, so its easy to understand.
    the example though is not really matching. no one would expect that a car changes enough in 2 years to beat something thats worth +5x the price. cpu depreciation is like 50% a year, for cars its like 10% (until a certain point it becomes a classic and then prices go up)

    i dont disagree with car analogies, but the pricing method for both is way too different. lets imagine if the next corvette that came out somehow stripped its weight by 1000lbs and kept its 50k$ price tag, and was faster than any lamborghini, does that mean it will reduce all lambo's prices down to 40k? no, because one is a production car and one is a supercar thats made in limited quantities.

    with cpus, the size of the chip, and the process are the 2 biggest factors. 300mm2 on 32nm should be pretty close to each other (10-20% performance), just because a car costing 20k$ or 200k$ both have 3000lbs of steel does not mean they are built anywhere near the same way and can have vastly different performance (5x the horsepower)
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    That's two words. I'll reply with two words as well: "lagging behind".
    They manage to catch up just to get stomped by IB in mid range (possibly partially SB as well, it beats 980X in quite a few cases) and SB-E in top range.
    So much for the BD hype and all those long years of waiting and development.
    Two more words would be trash talk, stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post

    one word for you: price range.
    Fantastic!!!!!

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    TDP:
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    Really?

    But the prices doesn't surprise me at all. BD would have to be a lot faster than the 2600K and near future speed bumps to actually become much more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mats View Post
    TDP:
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    Really?

    But the prices doesn't surprise me at all. BD would have to be a lot faster than the 2600K and near future speed bumps to actually become much more expensive.
    the TDP numbers are like that because he used excel and it incremented them by 1, rather than pasting the 95 over and over again. thats what im betting atleast
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    we already saw these numbers a few days ago.
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    Or he is just trolling you guys since there is virtually 0 information around and the release date is close. Playing on the anticipation to get site hits, etc.
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    If these are in anyway accurate, it means two things.

    1. AMD doesn't want to compete with 980X.

    2. AMD believes that it's 4 module/8 core top end FX can at least equal the i7 2600K performance-wise.
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