I had no intention of sparking off an argument I just asked the guy what was bingo13's fault, I doubt very much that he's the head man at ASUS or that he decides the policy for the support, I think we are lucky we have him at all. I've been in computers since the early 70's and I've found support from most manufacturers is not good at times, MSI and Gigabyte weren't the best at one time. I have a 790FX board (M4A79T Deluxe) with a 1090T in it and it runs quite well, maybe not as well as it could but it is pretty good considering. As to ASUS support a friend and I have had a graphics problem and ASUS support did a custom BIOS that fixed it which they didn't have to as it was basically a Windows problem that Microsoft were not interested in so in my book they are the good guys. I apologize for the post it was not meant the way it was taken.