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    New processors got programed rom, what voltage does it need to run what frequency, bla + bla + microcodes..
    Nowdays mainboard dont support newest cpus, no correct microcodes inside mainboard flash. Not yet corect corect written ROM inside cpu.
    Thats why HERE got strandge readings.

    This is just plain aplha release of cpu (not much worth without microcode and even without proper mainboard)

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    i send a link, the most informations, are in the link ...

    just folow, i think this is a real leak ...

    http://pic2.178.com/64/641528/month_...41dac11333.jpg
    Last edited by madcho; 04-23-2011 at 12:54 PM.

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    5.0 on the WEI kind of sucks. I dont have high end hardware and I still get 6.0 on cpu(4400+) and 7.0 on everthing else. Maybe he is running on board video?

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    Mhhh those AMD doc infos look weird.2620 is listed several times with different default and turbo speeds? And only a 5.0 score?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thematrixhazune View Post
    5.0 on the WEI kind of sucks. I dont have high end hardware and I still get 6.0 on cpu(4400+) and 7.0 on everthing else. Maybe he is running on board video?
    my I7 920 @ 3.8
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    SCORES A MASSIVE ........4.9

    yes i really value what WEI has to say.....

    you know why it scores that? because it takes the lowest score, and im running my OS on a crap drive at the moment.

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    What are the chances of Bulldozer making the current Sandybridge look like P4's? So close to release must hold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kadozer View Post
    What are the chances of Bulldozer making the current Sandybridge look like P4's? So close to release must hold.
    Zero. Sandy Bridge isn't a horrible arch, so that scenario can't happen.

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    You don't have to be horrible to get a kick in the nuts
    But yeah you are right, there is zero chance for that to happen, unless Zambezi can clock to 6ghz on stock cooler

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    AMD Turbo CORE allows customers to tap into additional clock speed headroom by allowing the processor to rise up from the base clock speed up to the TDP level, automatically unlocking extra potential for the processor. Should the processor get too close to the power limit, it does automatically step back a bit to ensure that it is continuing to operate within the specified guidelines. This allows for significantly higher maximum clock speeds.

    Some of the benefits of AMD Turbo CORE include:
    · Up to 500MHz of additional clock speed available with all cores active. This means even with multiple cores active with full workloads, all cores can boost at the same time. For those customers that want to maximize their performance, they now have the tools to do it.
    · Even higher boost states available with half of the cores active. AMD is not stating exactly how high processors can boost with AMD Turbo CORE, but obviously if there is room for up to 500MHz with all cores active, fewer active cores would obviously mean less power, and more headroom to recapture with AMD Turbo CORE. At launch you will see processors marketed with a base and a maximum frequency, base will reflect the actual clock speed on the processor and max will reflect the highest AMD Turbo CORE state.
    · AMD Turbo CORE is deterministic, governed by power draw, not temperature as other competing products are. This means that even in warmer climates you’ll be able to take advantage of that extra headroom if you choose. This helps ensure a max frequency is workload dependent, making it more consistent and repeatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thematrixhazune View Post
    5.0 on the WEI kind of sucks. I dont have high end hardware and I still get 6.0 on cpu(4400+) and 7.0 on everthing else. Maybe he is running on board video?
    WEI take the lower score and give it as base score, if your HDD score 5.9 it will give 5.9 even if all your other score have 7.8 ( graphic, HDD, memory, CPU ) .. if the gpu used is a IGP and are not even recognise properly or don't have driver, im not suprised it will take a 4.9 ... Without saying i tend to believe some of the score are artifically linked with a certain type of hardware ..
    Last edited by Lanek; 04-24-2011 at 01:38 AM.
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    I remember that only SSDs could get a higher score than 5.9 or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by h0bbes View Post
    I remember that only SSDs could get a higher score than 5.9 or something
    Yes need an SSD .... or maybe raid0 will surely give something similar...


    If i had let say a standard HDD and so 5.9 on HDD score, the WEI will be 5.9 on the main performance page..
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    Quote Originally Posted by madcho View Post
    i send a link, the most informations, are in the link ...

    just folow, i think this is a real leak ...

    http://pic2.178.com/64/641528/month_...41dac11333.jpg
    Quote Originally Posted by madcho View Post
    It appears we may be able to expect 1Ghz boosts in speed with Turbo Core (to 4100Mhz!). The interesting tidbit is that Turbo Core is dependent on power draw and not CPU temp. Overclocking while leaving this feature on will require motherboards with good power phases and stable, low voltages. On the flip side, with Turbo Core off the sky's the limit. This new uArch and process are certain to clock extremely well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMojoZ View Post
    Zero. Sandy Bridge isn't a horrible arch, so that scenario can't happen.
    K8 wasn't horrible five years ago either, but a lot of people changed their mind when C2D was released three months later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soya_crack View Post
    Only 3 useable as far as I can see.
    Well yes, my point was why waste 13GB of RAM?!? Would make a lot more sense to use a 64Bit OS with 16GB of RAM, or am I missing something?

    My guess is (and this is only a guess and speculation on my behalf) that the motherboard BIOS is not quite good enough yet so the system would be unstable with 16GB of RAM, perhaps even 8GB!

    My only concern is that a lot of AMD fanboys are going to be upset when Bulldozer is released. Let us all be realistic. Bulldozer will be a very good competitor to the 2600K and this is going to be the first time in many years that AMD compete with Intel's current Generation.

    We all know that each Phenom revision as been a generation behind where it should be, so Bulldozer is certainly the turning point, but it is not going to be the miraculous holy grail a lot of fanboys on other sites are hyping it up to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mats View Post
    K8 wasn't horrible five years ago either, but a lot of people changed their mind when C2D was released three months later.
    C2D was released 3 month after K8? Really?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnZS View Post
    Well yes, my point was why waste 13GB of RAM?!? Would make a lot more sense to use a 64Bit OS with 16GB of RAM, or am I missing something?

    My guess is (and this is only a guess and speculation on my behalf) that the motherboard BIOS is not quite good enough yet so the system would be unstable with 16GB of RAM, perhaps even 8GB!

    My only concern is that a lot of AMD fanboys are going to be upset when Bulldozer is released. Let us all be realistic. Bulldozer will be a very good competitor to the 2600K and this is going to be the first time in many years that AMD compete with Intel's current Generation.

    We all know that each Phenom revision as been a generation behind where it should be, so Bulldozer is certainly the turning point, but it is not going to be the miraculous holy grail a lot of fanboys on other sites are hyping it up to be.

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    That or they only had a 32bit disc of windows to hand to do a fresh install and had already plugged the RAM in

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    C2D was released 3 month after K8? Really?!
    I thought it was ~18months?
    But eh, what do I know

    Quote Originally Posted by spicypixel View Post
    That or they only had a 32bit disc of windows to hand to do a fresh install and had already plugged the RAM in
    Good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    C2D was released 3 month after K8? Really?!
    OMG you can't read? Really?

    Five years ago: April 2006.

    Three months later: July 2006

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    @JohnZS: first a64 started shipping in '03, c2d in '06.

    @Mats: yes, i cant read. thats why im posting here -.-
    u have to admit, that it kinda sounded that way.
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    I thought the AMD K8 was released sometime in 2003 with the Core2Duo being Aug 2006?
    But eh... like I said, what do I know
    LOL @ myself for guessing ~18months when really I should have typed ~24-36 months... ah well...
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    My point was: Exactly five years ago people didn't think K8 was slow in any way, but only 3 months later C2D showed up and changed everything.

    So the argument that an upcoming CPU can't make a current one look slow because the current one looks good for the moment doesn't really help us here.

    In retrospect, K8 wasn't as bad as P4, and I don't think SB will be regarded as slow when BD shows up.

    K8 was released April 22 (server) and September 20 (desktop) 2003, IIRC. However, I never talked about the launch date of the K8, you made that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madcho View Post
    Not really sure where you got the quote on the Turbo Core, but the last bullet was clearly a misleading point - "AMD Turbo CORE is deterministic, governed by power draw, not temperature as other competing products are." The so called competing products is actually power && current && temperature driven. If it is from marketing material, it is clearyly a clever wording trick to mislead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chumbucket843 View Post
    Vdd is constant. Idd is not, thus your formula does not work.

    the eq would be P=aCV^2f, where a is the activity factor. add static power to that for total power which also increases with voltage.

    with that said, i still agree that it is extremely difficult to compare processes.
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    Just over a month until release and we have almost nothing except the official information. Just some picture of a processor and some claims of a screen. I don't know if it's a good or a bad thing that we know so little so far.

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