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    I'm mighty tempted to test out the Fatal1ty's onboard audio though. What's the THX studio pro for? But I'm still lovin my Xifi xtreme gamer even if creative drivers suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ket View Post
    You need to update the UEFI, that bug was fixed with UEFI 1.6A onward.



    You have a better IHS application than I do. Theres a maximum delta of 10c between hottest and coolest cores on my 2500k and even the average is 6-7c hotter between coolest and hottest cores and thats only idle at load it can increase to as much as 13c. Thats why I think its just TIM used under the IHS and why I'm so very tempted to take a razor blade and set it on my 2500k.



    For 24/7 usage, you should be looking at around 1.38v max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dworks View Post
    I have a P67 Extreme 6 and a 2500k OC'd @ 4.6Ghz. Everything works great except one thing that keeps bothering me. When I turn on the computer it will turn on for 2 seconds then power off, remain off for about 5 sec then power itself back on and then run through the POST process and boot to windows 7 like normal. This happens every time I shut my computer down and I have to turn it on again. Is this normal behavior for this board? I'm a little concerned with the wear on the parts.

    I too get this problem when overvoltage is enabled so i use 4.6 cause i dont like the double boot up.


    Ket can you check into the extreme6 board honest all the bugs the extreme 4 had the 6 has to but seems the extreme 4 is getting more bios update is there gonna be a fix for the extreme 6 or unsure
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    Question should i mess wih the bclk lvls at all im 100% stable at 100.5 but i dont kno if this is hurting or making things better
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    - I never use XMP settings, always set speed timings and voltage manually and never had a problem. If you are using the WHITE DIMM slots on your board, try switching to the BLUE slots, they are better for stability with high RAM clocks.

    - That sounds like a physical processor wall, 45x may be all she wrote. I can boot to Windows @ 48x but its not stable for long, I'm blaming poor IHS mounting. Still trying to confirm if 2500k CPUs just use TIM under the IHS. My intuition tells me it is just TIM as at idle I have a maximum of 10c delta between cores and at load up to 13c. If a IHS was soldered on, theres no possible way a temp delta would be that high between coolest and hottest cores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksun1942 View Post
    I was also thinking that high VTT was better for RAM than PLL, very good info. Any other recommendations?
    Not sure where he got the idea that PLL is what's related to Vdimm, as there are plenty of online documents showing you were right in that the relation is between VTT and Vdimm since they are both tied to the IMC. Here's one for example: http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/ar...#axzz1KGAGQv1d

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    Thanks for the info once again guys.

    - The RAM is indeed in the blue slots.
    - Been trying all day, and so far I'm unable to get it stable @ DDR3-2133....
    - Would help if I knew the exact timings it was rated for @ that speed, but different software gives me different SPD info. Can I trust HWiNFO32?
    - At this point, I've considering making do with a lower speed.

    ...in other news, I've successfully booted into 4.8ghz (testing now)...

    Oddly, this Japanese fellow's exact settings got me there:
    http://ts2peca.no-ip.info/?p=604
    I'm using LLC lvl2 not 1.
    I did not disable Hardware Prefetcher or Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher; I'm not sure why he claims that it will "slow you down" (according to Google translation)...

    On the one hand, I *do* want to run this thing with "decent" voltage. If I don't, then my Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme was nothing but a waste of money. On the other hand, I do *not* want to kill this CPU.

    I ran my old Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 3.2ghz + over-volt with EIST and C1E disabled non-stop for 4 years (bought it in summer of 2006 when I first registered for this forum) without problems. That's kind of what I'm hoping for from this build.

    So far, my temps are WAAAAAAAAY lower than anything I ever got on my Core 2 Duo; that thing would idle @ ~40C, max @ 70C+ (cheap cooling). I would Prime 95 or IBT it every few months or so, and it stayed rock-solid error-free for all those years. With Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme, I'm so far <30C idle, maxing @ ~62C with 1.47v...
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    - Ket you said

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    Originally Posted by dworks
    I have a P67 Extreme 6 and a 2500k OC'd @ 4.6Ghz. Everything works great except one thing that keeps bothering me. When I turn on the computer it will turn on for 2 seconds then power off, remain off for about 5 sec then power itself back on and then run through the POST process and boot to windows 7 like normal. This happens every time I shut my computer down and I have to turn it on again. Is this normal behavior for this board? I'm a little concerned with the wear on the parts.

    You need to update the UEFI, that bug was fixed with UEFI 1.6A onward.

    Can you please link us to a 1.6a cause there is only 1.60 and 1.52 and they both still have the problem this is for the extreme 6 i dont know if you didnt saw that in dworks or if theres a bios i dont know about
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksun1942 View Post
    Thanks for the info once again guys.

    - The RAM is indeed in the blue slots.
    - Been trying all day, and so far I'm unable to get it stable @ DDR3-2133....
    - Would help if I knew the exact timings it was rated for @ that speed, but different software gives me different SPD info. Can I trust HWiNFO32?
    - At this point, I've considering making do with a lower speed.

    ...in other news, I've successfully booted into 4.8ghz (testing now)...

    Oddly, this Japanese fellow's exact settings got me there:
    http://ts2peca.no-ip.info/?p=604
    I'm using LLC lvl2 not 1.
    I did not disable Hardware Prefetcher or Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher; I'm not sure why he claims that it will "slow you down" (according to Google translation)...

    On the one hand, I *do* want to run this thing with "decent" voltage. If I don't, then my Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme was nothing but a waste of money. On the other hand, I do *not* want to kill this CPU.

    I ran my old Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 3.2ghz + over-volt with EIST and C1E disabled non-stop for ~4 years without problems. That's kind of what I'm hoping for from this build.
    Those settings are for a 2600k and be careful with llc 1 its very strong
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    Is LLC lvl2 safe for 24/7?
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    Honestly im not sure i just know that 1 and maybe 2 to can be just a little to powerful but then again i use offset mode so it may be a little differnt but basicly the same all LLC does is lessin the vdroop so that the voltage is closer to what you set it.
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    Hello everyone my account was finanly activated. Im new not to the site or anything computer related just was able to register Iv wanted to post here so bad because I know ket has contacts oo did I ever want to tell you that the extreme 6 had all the same problems but we arnt getting many bios updates i wonder why. Last but not least Ket you are the man thank you so much for your insight I hope i can help sharpin up the best looking 2 1155 boards extreme 4-6

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    The problem dwork stated is the only thing keeping me from running 4.8 24/7 because on a cold boot up the computer will double boot.... and sometime it wont pass post at all and restart 2 -3 times before it goes into windows Bios 1.60

    Other than that i cant complain these boards are amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nw0rb View Post
    Those settings are for a 2600k and be careful with llc 1 its very strong
    Like I said, I'm using LLC 2.

    My only concern is... Will 1.47v constant (NO EIST, NO SPEEDSTEP, NO C1E, NO POWER SAVING) be safe if I want this build to last >3 years?
    Max temp is now @ 67C.... (Prime95 blend)
    Remember, this is NOT my 24/7 build, it is only for gaming/folding/etc, and it will likely only be in use a few days a week.
    Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme6 (UEFI v1.60) | CPU: Core i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.36v) w/ Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme | RAM: 2x2GB DDR3-2133 (G.Skill F3-17000CL9D-4GBXL) | PSU: XFX Black Edition 750W | Graphics: MSI N580GTX Lightning | Sound: Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty (PCI) | Storage: 2x250GB Seagate 7200rpm HDD 3gb/s SATA | OS: Windows 7 SP1 64-Bit | Case: Antec 900

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    [QUOTE=blacksun1942;4825055]Like I said, I'm using LLC 2.

    My only concern is... Will 1.47v constant (NO EIST, NO SPEEDSTEP, NO C1E, NO POWER SAVING) be safe if I want this build to last >3 years?
    Max temp is now @ 67C.... (Prime95 blend)
    Remember, this is NOT my 24/7 build, it is only for gaming/folding/etc, and it will likely only be in use a few days a week. [/QUOT


    Try using the auto oc to 4.8 and use overvoltage and see how that runs because 1.57 even for day to day use is a little high
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nw0rb View Post
    Try using the auto oc to 4.8 and use overvoltage and see how that runs because 1.57 even for day to day use is a little high
    It's 1.47v, and remember this is not a day-to-day machine; it is only for performance. I will not be checking e-mails or "surfing the internets." That is why speedstep, etc will remain *off* (I want every single window to load as fast as possible).

    To be clear I am *NOT* going to be using Turbo OC, offset vcore, etc. My goal is for non-stop OC when the machine is powered on.

    Nevertheless, I would like this system to last at least ~3 years if possible, like my old Core 2 Duo build did....
    Last edited by blacksun1942; 04-23-2011 at 04:56 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poohead View Post
    Not sure where he got the idea that PLL is what's related to Vdimm, as there are plenty of online documents showing you were right in that the relation is between VTT and Vdimm since they are both tied to the IMC. Here's one for example: http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/ar...#axzz1KGAGQv1d
    I tested myself, VTT doesn't make any difference on the Extreme4, but PLL voltage does. Can't say I have a explanation for it, just the way it is. With low PLL I'll BSOD when running 2133, up the PLL to 1.85, no problems.

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    Alright, which of these is likely to be easier on the cpu...

    1.395v and lvl 3 LLC

    or

    1.375v and lvl 2 LLC

    I ask because I can run 5Ghz stable at both of those (the voltage under full load is approx the same).
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    The one with offset....
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    hi there ...

    not sure whether I should asking about this

    my extreme4 bios is P1.60 .. date is 18/02/2011... according to cpu-z
    it had not given me any prob yet..
    how come i went to the asrock website .. it stated bios version 1.60 .. date is 18/32011

    okay... I d/led the 8/3/2011 1.60 version from the asrock website and flash it ... when i opened the cpu-z .. it is still stated there P1.60 18/02/2011... how come ?

    should I go d/l the 1.62 beta and update it ???
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    hi guys
    is there anyone who tried this board for extreme oc? ss or ln2? I'm really interested in this one...or giga p67x ud3r...
    goodbye my dear ut p35, i'll love you forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by dworks View Post
    I have a P67 Extreme 6 and a 2500k OC'd @ 4.6Ghz. Everything works great except one thing that keeps bothering me. When I turn on the computer it will turn on for 2 seconds then power off, remain off for about 5 sec then power itself back on and then run through the POST process and boot to windows 7 like normal. This happens every time I shut my computer down and I have to turn it on again. Is this normal behavior for this board? I'm a little concerned with the wear on the parts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nw0rb View Post
    The problem dwork stated is the only thing keeping me from running 4.8 24/7 because on a cold boot up the computer will double boot.... and sometime it wont pass post at all and restart 2 -3 times before it goes into windows Bios 1.60

    Add me to the list of people who get this problem too.
    EXACTLY the same here....
    No 1.6A available for Extreme6; I'm using the latest- 1.60
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    Some say 'Asrock is crappy' but I said before buying that Asrock will be a great one for OC.
    I wasn't wrong!

    My Fatal1ty one gave the +1 working multiplier to the processor which was capable of 55 multi.
    Maximus IV extreme + my 2600K = 5580max, 55 multi (SS)
    Deluxe, Pro + my 2600K = 5560 max, 55 multi (SS)
    MSI GD65 + my 2600K = ~~5300MHz max, 52 multi (SS)
    Asrock Fatality + my 2600K= 5600MHz, 56 multi :O (Air cooled, Prolimatech Megahalems)



    I can't wait for - temperature benches today

    Please don't look at the SPI run time etc. (I was just testing the 56 multi )
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksun1942 View Post
    Add me to the list of people who get this problem too.
    EXACTLY the same here....
    No 1.6A available for Extreme6; I'm using the latest- 1.60
    Have you spread spectrum enable in bios guys ?

    I got an Extreme 6 too and no double boot with the P1.60 bios at start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    Have you spread spectrum enable in bios guys ?

    I got an Extreme 6 too and no double boot with the P1.60 bios at start.
    A. you dont have overvoltage enabled

    B. its more of a double fan/post then a double boot

    C. Its only when overvoltage is enabled and yes spectrum is disabled but that wouldnt have anything to do with it seeing it boots fine at 4.6 spectrum disabled but overvoltage disabled.

    It is a problem with the board bios there hasnt been a bios fix so everyone still has this problem execept the extreme 4 which is gettin many more bios updates then us Ket must hate me i tell him hes my hero and doesnt talk to me ima cry in a corner lol
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    I get the double post on my Ex4. I'm running BIOS 1.6, the shipping BIOS. The double post reminds me of my X48 board. That board did it as it adjusted voltages before fully handing off to the operating system. I just assumed it was the same type of thing with P67 once you started changing voltages and manually setting voltages.
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