***Official***Z68X/P67A-UD7 Club/Discussion/Info**

[stasio]

same here mate blck not solved nor reset same as old bios...sorry stasio but i been checking for all weekend to say this

only ok is new levels but still deciding to flash B3 bios...

Uhh,forgot to change here.No Fix BLCK 100.

[andressergio]

Uhh,forgot to change here.No Fix BLCK 100.

thanks stasio i flashed with B3 bios seems better so from now on i will put all B3 bios

[andressergio]

GIGABYTE P67A UD7 B2 flashed with F3 BIOS thanks stasio and lsdmeasap

its on 1,42 SET ON BIOS LLC7 holding 1,44 IDLE CPUZ 1,428 LOAD



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[stasio]

Nice Sergio.
Only AIDA64 outdated....

[andressergio]

Nice Sergio.
Only AIDA64 outdated....

thanks stasio but remember what i told u about aida...it make my fps go down if i forgot to close it...

[andressergio]

7 hours prime stable




wouldn't even make three full passes and bsod 124 while running linx set to 4 threads

l0ud whats your vcore and vtt set on bios ? can u plz tell me the other settings pll, vdimm, pch etc on BIOS we seem to be stable on same volts

cheers !
Sergio

[the_real_7]

GIGABYTE P67A UD7 B2 flashed with F3 BIOS thanks stasio and lsdmeasap

its on 1,42 SET ON BIOS LLC7 holding 1,44 IDLE CPUZ 1,428 LOAD



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Im have to copy you sergio as these setting look great for my 1600mhz setup

[the_real_7]

Im have to copy you sergio as these setting look great for my 1600mhz setup

Im back Sergio didn't work for my 1600mhz settings as it gave me
bios 1.440 idle 1.476 load 1.467 , im sure would be great for mt 2133mhz as my chip get hungry with bandwidth , back to my llc 6 1.460 bios 1.464 idle 1.440 load Prime 3 hour pass

[Kent10]

I just installed the new F3 BIOS on my UD7 B3 board updating from F3h. The new install gave me the infinite loop on start up but clearing the CMOS fixed that.

I am trying to find the best Vcore/LLC setting with the new LLC levels.

With BIOS F3h LLC Level 1

I had 1.480 set in BIOS for 47X.
This gave me 1.464 idle and 1.428 load (using HWiNFO)

With BIOS F3 LLC Level 6

I have 1.460 set in BIOS for 47X.
I get mostly 1.464 idle with 1.476 sometimes and 1.428 load and 1.440 sometimes.

Does this look good or would you recommend I try any other settings. It seems P95 stable so far. I am testing now but only for just over 2 hours so far. I think what I am trying to understand is which setting is best and why. For example, I could use a higher Vcore set in BIOS with a lower LLC setting or a lower Vcore with a higher LLC setting. Is one preferable over the other as long as I am getting the desired voltage I need for stability which is about 1.428 on load. What if I could get 1.428 on load and idle. Would that be better yet since it seems unnecessary to have more voltage on idle than on load or am I misunderstanding something. I am relatively new to overclocking.

Oddly, (at least I think it is odd), on my UD7 B2 revision board this same CPU needed less Vcore. I had 1.460 set in BIOS and would get 1.452 idle and 1.416 load. This was 24 hour P95 stable. But with the new B3 revision board it was not stable until I increased Vcore to 1.480 (both LLC Level 1 and all other settings the same). I realize every board is different but I am trying to understand why the CPU would need so much more Vcore. I thought the board didn’t matter much in overclocking these chips. Can anyone explain what the difference might be between the 2 boards. Or is that considered a small difference that should be expected going from one board to another.

Thanks, Kent

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

l0ud whats your vcore and vtt set on bios ? can u plz tell me the other settings pll, vdimm, pch etc on BIOS we seem to be stable on same volts

cheers !
Sergio

sure no problem, but this is only prime stable, it will not pass linx

vcore 1.425 set in bios LLC 7
vtt 1.10
pll 1.7
vdimm 1.66
pch 1.1

[zsamz_]

welcome zsamz , we just where about wondering when you where joining us
are these boards good , hmmm let me tell youit feels like the DFI UT P35-T2R: Tweakers Rejoice again days , just don't use the newest bios first unless you wanna pull your hair out lol , see you soon old friend

i should have cpu n board monday-tuesday

i still have my ut p35
good or bad the board is a gigabut to me
they earned the name

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

i should have cpu n board monday-tuesday

i still have my ut p35
good or bad the board is a gigabut to me
they earned the name

glad to see you finally hopped on the sandy bandwagon, your going to like it, even if you do have to use a gigabut

after testing both the UD7 and the M4E I can say they are both excellent boards, and I wouldn't mind having either one, but it is a hard choice to pick one so I am gonna keep both of them

now all I need is a 56x or greater cpu

[sin0822]

Nice sin0822 now it looks similar to my board as well at 1.5v+.
Too bad i can use LLC9 and LLC10 only for my CPU at 5.0GHz.
Prime is fine but LinX is no way to go more than 5 runs once it vdroops to 1.526v I will get BSOD 124.

Try LLC level 8 and push the vcore a bit higher.

I just installed the new F3 BIOS on my UD7 B3 board updating from F3h. The new install gave me the infinite loop on start up but clearing the CMOS fixed that.

I am trying to find the best Vcore/LLC setting with the new LLC levels.

With BIOS F3h LLC Level 1

I had 1.480 set in BIOS for 47X.
This gave me 1.464 idle and 1.428 load (using HWiNFO)

With BIOS F3 LLC Level 6

I have 1.460 set in BIOS for 47X.
I get mostly 1.464 idle with 1.476 sometimes and 1.428 load and 1.440 sometimes.

Does this look good or would you recommend I try any other settings. It seems P95 stable so far. I am testing now but only for just over 2 hours so far. I think what I am trying to understand is which setting is best and why. For example, I could use a higher Vcore set in BIOS with a lower LLC setting or a lower Vcore with a higher LLC setting. Is one preferable over the other as long as I am getting the desired voltage I need for stability which is about 1.428 on load. What if I could get 1.428 on load and idle. Would that be better yet since it seems unnecessary to have more voltage on idle than on load or am I misunderstanding something. I am relatively new to overclocking.

Oddly, (at least I think it is odd), on my UD7 B2 revision board this same CPU needed less Vcore. I had 1.460 set in BIOS and would get 1.452 idle and 1.416 load. This was 24 hour P95 stable. But with the new B3 revision board it was not stable until I increased Vcore to 1.480 (both LLC Level 1 and all other settings the same). I realize every board is different but I am trying to understand why the CPU would need so much more Vcore. I thought the board didn’t matter much in overclocking these chips. Can anyone explain what the difference might be between the 2 boards. Or is that considered a small difference that should be expected going from one board to another.

Thanks, Kent

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1302411203

Its a chart i made for the new LLC.

[Kent10]

Try LLC level 8 and push the vcore a bit higher.


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1302411203

Its a chart i made for the new LLC.

Nice chart Sin. Thanks for doing this.

[Falkentyne]

I just installed the new F3 BIOS on my UD7 B3 board updating from F3h. The new install gave me the infinite loop on start up but clearing the CMOS fixed that.

I am trying to find the best Vcore/LLC setting with the new LLC levels.

With BIOS F3h LLC Level 1

I had 1.480 set in BIOS for 47X.
This gave me 1.464 idle and 1.428 load (using HWiNFO)

With BIOS F3 LLC Level 6

I have 1.460 set in BIOS for 47X.
I get mostly 1.464 idle with 1.476 sometimes and 1.428 load and 1.440 sometimes.

Does this look good or would you recommend I try any other settings. It seems P95 stable so far. I am testing now but only for just over 2 hours so far. I think what I am trying to understand is which setting is best and why. For example, I could use a higher Vcore set in BIOS with a lower LLC setting or a lower Vcore with a higher LLC setting. Is one preferable over the other as long as I am getting the desired voltage I need for stability which is about 1.428 on load. What if I could get 1.428 on load and idle. Would that be better yet since it seems unnecessary to have more voltage on idle than on load or am I misunderstanding something. I am relatively new to overclocking.

Oddly, (at least I think it is odd), on my UD7 B2 revision board this same CPU needed less Vcore. I had 1.460 set in BIOS and would get 1.452 idle and 1.416 load. This was 24 hour P95 stable. But with the new B3 revision board it was not stable until I increased Vcore to 1.480 (both LLC Level 1 and all other settings the same). I realize every board is different but I am trying to understand why the CPU would need so much more Vcore. I thought the board didn’t matter much in overclocking these chips. Can anyone explain what the difference might be between the 2 boards. Or is that considered a small difference that should be expected going from one board to another.

Thanks, Kent

Two things:
1) the chips degrade slightly, or otherwise "break in", after repeated testing like that. You would wind up needing more vcore on your B2, too.

2) Did you actually compare the temps? Your B2 board may have been overvolting...if your temps were lower at the settings you said became unstable on the B3, then your B2 was overvolting. You'd only be able to tell for sure if you had a DMM measure the volts on both boards.

[Kent10]

Two things:
1) the chips degrade slightly, or otherwise "break in", after repeated testing like that. You would wind up needing more vcore on your B2, too.

2) Did you actually compare the temps? Your B2 board may have been overvolting...if your temps were lower at the settings you said became unstable on the B3, then your B2 was overvolting.

Thanks Falkentyne. I think I understand. I have heard of the degrading. Does this then stabilize after the break in period or does it continuously degrade needing more and more voltage. Or is it different depending how much a chip is overclocked.

Yes I compared the temps and I understand what you are saying that the voltage readings could be different on each board even if using the same software to read it (which may not be accurate). I think the temps were lower but not by much but when I finally found the stable setting on the B3, the temps were higher (due to the degrading chip I suppose) but not by too much and it is difficult to know because the ambient temp may have been a little different plus the way I used the thermal grease also.

Thanks for the help.

[andressergio]

sure no problem, but this is only prime stable, it will not pass linx

vcore 1.425 set in bios LLC 7
vtt 1.10
pll 1.7
vdimm 1.66
pch 1.1

thanks bud

[sin0822]

Here is another read point if you guys cannot hit the inductor or the back of the board. This is the vsense resistor.

[andressergio]

Here is another read point if you guys cannot hit the inductor or the back of the board. This is the vsense resistor.

thanks bud did you try what i told you ? im on F3 bios it does the same

but that point is sooo tiny !!!

[sin0822]

yea but i got it! its actually easy to hit with a probe, and it was simple to solder(I DO NOT ADVOCATE TAKING A SOLDERING IRON TO YOUR BOARD< YOU WILL VOID THE WARRANTY). I like to solder, so i did it.
Honestly you can hit it with a probe if i can solder a wire on it LOL, the choke and cap show basically the same voltage +/- 3mv or so.
I tried what you said and it does slightly raise, but then the falls back down. the cap didn't raise like that, and i think the sudden rise was to charge the caps.

[owikh84]

sure no problem, but this is only prime stable, it will not pass linx

vcore 1.425 set in bios LLC 7
vtt 1.10
pll 1.7
vdimm 1.66
pch 1.1

To pass LinX, you need vdimm 1.68v for 7-9-7
VTT is correct at 1.1v

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

To pass LinX, you need vdimm 1.68v for 7-9-7
VTT is correct at 1.1v

not on the M4E, I have a two sets and they can both run 7-9-7-21-1T-88 at 1.66, and with lower vtt, so there is no reason why they can't on the UD7 with the same vdimm

[Expat GriZ]

Well, this F3 bios seems not too bad. Didn't experience the boot loops unless OC was way out of line. And, finally able to flash back up.....although never went nutz enough to corrupt main. 9 2600K's, best ones 54 multi max. Here is an update of the little 2500K I bought just for the hell of it....pushed it a little more.

[sin0822]

not on the M4E, I have a two sets and they can both run 7-9-7-21-1T-88 at 1.66, and with lower vtt, so there is no reason why they can't on the UD7 with the same vdimm

so more VTT is the answer? then probably at stock one board is giving more power on the VTT on. On the UD7 the CPU PLL is overvolted at stock. The VTT is exactly as is read.

[stasio]

Sin,as per your chart and Sergio setting ,my LLC level 7 for 1.4600V in BIOS,give me idle 1.5240V and under wPrime go up to 1.5720V?