GTX 590 reviews

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A) Uhm, IPS gaming screens are in many areas better than TN.TN has only one advantage, thats response time.And yes, people who do like to watch quality screen go IPS or VA.Games arent only unreal tournament ones you know.Good IPS screen has good response time with much better picture quality.So ,yes, IPS is for gaming too.And most importantly people who can afford these cards really like quality.And even if you go for TN, its 1920x1080.

Is that so? How many 120Hz IPS screens do you know?

B)Well, i have logic.As it does not apply to you, i can just fireback, you dont have any data to back up your statement too.So thats a draw mate.

See, that's the thing. You're the one saying that everyone who buys these cards have screens of a certain resolution. You're the one who is narrowing the field without proof of that. I'm the one leaving it open, as it is. Because, as I said before, hardware purchases, as many other types of purchases, are not always based on logic.

C)You cant say i wrongly assume people who spend 700$ on GFX cards have a taste for the best of the best if you cant "back up" your statement with data too, now dont you ?

Read above.

D)Because to get all data points needed for comparisons for every card, you have to have unified testing specification for everything from slowest cards to the fastest ones.Moreover having more data you can draw conclusions.Such as, maybe GTX590 is vram starved ?.More data points is ALWAYS better.As to the second part, they didnt ignore the lower resolution scores.They showed you them to make up your mind, didnt they ?However in THEIR assesement they arent relevant.

What's the point in comparing a dual GPU card with mid/low end cards? As for the vram starved, i'll get back to you later (G).

F) You said "GTX is all round better than 6990" .It isnt.All round means in every scenario.But its faster "on average" not "always".And has its drawbacks.You wont argue that overvolt protection works better on 6990 than 590 ?Or will you :-)

1- In five resolutions tested, it won three, tied one and lost one. That makes it more well rounded.

2- I don't know. Have you seen many 6990 overvolted? The only one I've seen, @ Neoseeker, curiously died shortly after the review. How do you like them apples?

G) Yes it got lower score in one resolution, but its kinda implied that in multi monitor setting it would get worse score also...

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(http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-23.html)

H) According to nvidia these cards feature protection from such things.And they doesnt work properly.So thats not a plus.

Overclock always had risks. And he did go way above stock voltage.

I)Maybe you should show whole quote from him
From tpus review:


Yes, clearly AMD paid him off.Thats why he doesnt recommend neither card.And recommends 580.

There you go trying to spin things... You said "they take into consideration real price not the imaginary one". And they didn't. In their review, both cards cost the same, so price difference wasn't a factor either.

Im gonna stop here cause its pointless.Score isnt based on median of the results, but what reviewer gets after digesting them all.Get over it.

Final score is arbitrary? Makes perfect sense.

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That review (maybe all reviews) is irrelevant unfortunately, what with all the driver updates and down-clocking with 'all over the place' performance and stuttering.

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That review (maybe all reviews) is irrelevant unfortunately, what with all the driver updates and down-clocking with 'all over the place' performance and stuttering.

Have you seen proof of the downclocking? Cause, so far, all I've seen is one user (total count: 3 posts) over at [H] forums claiming that.

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I dont know any 120hz IPS monitors,i heard LG makes one.
But what it has to do with anything i said in that part of my post ?
Its not a counter argument, youre just manipulating to get one thing that doesnt fit, ignoring all the other factors.
You said earlier that in the process of buying monitors people doesnt use logic, they dont buy best of the best ,and they dont go for the highest res.So in your opinion theyre not taking into account any highest specs.
And now youre telling me only monitors worth playing at are 120hz TN`s.Which is bull, but thats beside the point.And is totally irrelevant, unless of course you can provide me with a statistic that 120hz TN below 1920x monitors are the majority for dual gpu cards enthusiasts
And yes, i am narrowing a field.I build pc`s as a hobby and a side business.
There are two types of people who buy high end GFX.
A) Enthusiasts, they DO know what and why theyre buying.So their decision is knowledge and logic based, they usually own high end monitors (even CRT`s) ,they use their pc for work and gaming.High res.
B) People with loads of cash who want the highest numbers on everything, they get big high res monitors so a builder can make more money and they have bragging rights.

If a enthusiast has small res monitor he knows he doesnt need dual gpu monster.
Loads od cash people dont get cheap monitors cause they arent big ,expensive and look crap.

Comparing any card to any card is a logical ( i know, nobody uses logic) way of determining a) performance delta and b) gains from moving forward/backward, comparing between friends, explaining "the gain" to a customer etc etc.

1- In five resolutions tested, it won three, tied one and lost one. That makes it more well rounded.

It doesnt make it "all round" better tho, but "more well rounded" if you want to use such weird wording.I would say it wins some and loses some, or wins in low res and loses in high res.

No i havent seen many 6990 overvolted or blow up.Has to make you wonder why does it ?Ati world conspiracy ? Masons ? Or maybe 590 is more prone to that.I gues we will never know.

As for the eyefinity, yes it seems while single screen AMD with higher res gains, in multi monitor setup nvidia has some trick up its sleeve to remain competetive.It doesnt destroy 6990 in any way tho.

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SLI/CF scaling depends only from drivers and GPUS? Or are there other hardware components that can affect it?

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SLI/CF scaling depends only from drivers and GPUS? Or are there other hardware components that can affect it?

CPU type, speed, motherboard, PCI-Ex lane distribution, FSB/BCLK speed.

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