GTX580: 1.025VID: 950/1900/2300: stock cooler: guaranteed?!?

[p3gaz_001]

i can say that my evga 1.000vid , never saw 70 C* even with stock cooling, 950/960/965 1.100 > 85% fan, now that i've koolance'd my evga, can't have 1ghz ... as don markoni did :|

(btw, i'm wondering why isn't present yet a gtx 580 official/overclocking, or whatever official 3d, like 460/560/570 has )

[CryptiK]

I havent seen anyone else post a 1.088 stock VID card yet aside from my self, haha!

I fried the GPU folding for F@H and I dont find it reliable since some WU's only stress the GPU to a certain degree, like some WU's only push my GPU as high as 65c while other WU's can push it to 71.. Games on the other hand can easily make it hit 75c

Mines 1.082 VID, so it's not far off yours. Yet it does 920c | 1840s | 2250m on stock volts, and as I showed in my last post 950c | 1900s | 2250m totally game/bench stable @ 1.125v

You can also see there are guys with 1.000 VID cards can't hit 900 MHz on the core, and although may get to 950 MHz on say 0.0125v less than a higher VID card, still can't get much more than that when watercooled or with higher voltage.

I think core binning may not depend on VID but other properties too, and there is evidence of a MHz cap most can't push past regardless of VID/vGPU.

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Mine only does 900Mhz Core (stock volts) and I dont know about the mem as I never bothered to OC them nor do I know how to test the mem for stability so it does not auto downclock. My max volts though is 1.150v

[aussie-revhead]

I had a 1.000 and a 1.038, neither would do over 880 at stock volts , nor over 930 maxed, even with asus bios mod. I have another one now that is supposed to do over 1000 so Im keen to give it a shot but I need to get the mcw80 fitted first.

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Is there like a specific crysis or warhead benchmark loop that really stresses out the hardware that much ?

[CryptiK]

Benchmarks just don't stress the cards like gaming does. Furmark is just stupid, and works your PWM's and tests for max heat etc. Like I care how hot it's possible to get my card under those conditions. May as well put your tower in the oven and be like yo that's an awesome test my cards 200*C for 40 mins turning once while I cooked my dinner stable.

BFBC2 everything maxed 32MSAA is a good test, my personal fav is Atacama Desert as the the card has to render a lot of dust and smoke. Just play that for an hour or more and see how your card fares. Temps will climb slowly if you are on water and the system equilibrates to the CPU/VGA/Mobo heat output, and once it stabilizes thats when the stress test starts so to speak. If your OC is unstable (system too) that game will show it up pretty quickly.

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Benchmarks just don't stress the cards like gaming does. Furmark is just stupid, and works your PWM's and tests for max heat etc. Like I care how hot it's possible to get my card under those conditions. May as well put your tower in the oven and be like yo that's an awesome test my cards 200*C for 40 mins turning once while I cooked my dinner stable.

BFBC2 everything maxed 32MSAA is a good test, my personal fav is Atacama Desert as the the card has to render a lot of dust and smoke. Just play that for an hour or more and see how your card fares. Temps will climb slowly if you are on water and the system equilibrates to the CPU/VGA/Mobo heat output, and once it stabilizes thats when the stress test starts so to speak. If your OC is unstable (system too) that game will show it up pretty quickly.

I've only played the SP for BFBC2, is that a multiplayer map that I can load alone to testing/running around ?

[p3gaz_001]

Yeah, and gets much hotter with OC, of course. I use fan, just to be sure it lives long and prosper.

your 1ghz video card how much voltage does it need to run at that speed?! and wich thermal grease have you used?

[CryptiK]

@ Demo - Yeah jump in multiplayer and find a map no one is on, or just game like me in populated maps but make your own squad and lock it so no one joins you or just don't select put me in a squad so you can game alone.

[p3gaz_001]

Mine only does 900Mhz Core (stock volts) and I dont know about the mem as I never bothered to OC them nor do I know how to test the mem for stability so it does not auto downclock. My max volts though is 1.150v

asus tweak voltage cards has max 1.22v i've seen in some screens, i was wondering if i put that bios in my evga card if it will work or even edit ma bios ..... don't know if it works, and first of all if it's safe to do!

[Punisher!]

asus tweak voltage cards has max 1.22v i've seen in some screens, i was wondering if i put that bios in my evga card if it will work or even edit ma bios ..... don't know if it works, and first of all if it's safe to do!

I almost confirm this, I have Asus Voltage Tweak:
stock voltage: 1.012v
max voltage: 1.213v

Screenshot:

[p3gaz_001]

I almost confirm this, I have Asus Voltage Tweak:
stock voltage: 1.012v
max voltage: 1.213v

Screenshot:

hey my italian friend! :PP ....
wich is your asus card!? .... i suppose yours goes more than 970mhz?! isn't it?!
you should lc you card

[Punisher!]

hey my italian friend! :PP ....
wich is your asus card!? .... i suppose yours goes more than 970mhz?! isn't it?!
you should lc you card

Unfortunately stock cooler. Benchable @about 940Mhz (no matter the voltage, it is just too hot).

[p3gaz_001]

Unfortunately stock cooler. Benchable @about 940Mhz (no matter the voltage, it is just too hot).

got it, ..... when i was on stock cooling i was able to bench till 960mhz .... pretty good, by lc my 580 .... thinks aren't changed so much, 975mhz on unigine, but others benchs like 3dmv & 06 keep on crashing ..... this week i'mg gonna change thermal compound (i've used the one provided with the wb, Koolance) and see if i can go a little bit higher

[Punisher!]

got it, ..... when i was on stock cooling i was able to bench till 960mhz .... pretty good, by lc my 580 .... thinks aren't changed so much, 975mhz on unigine, but others benchs like 3dmv & 06 keep on crashing ..... this week i'mg gonna change thermal compound (i've used the one provided with the wb, Koolance) and see if i can go a little bit higher

And what about memory clock? How does it scale with voltage (tipically)?

[donmarkoni]

i can say that my evga 1.000vid , never saw 70 C* even with stock cooling, 950/960/965 1.100 > 85% fan, now that i've koolance'd my evga, can't have 1ghz ... as don markoni did :|

Give it some more juice!

you 1ghz video card how much voltage does it need to run at that speed?! and wich thermal grease have you used?

Mine is 1.012 VID card and it needs 1.175V for 1000/2000/4800. Cooled with EK GPU Supreme, which is GPU ONLY WB (see below). Used OCZ Freeze thermal paste.

asus tweak voltage cards has max 1.22v i've seen in some screens, i was wondering if i put that bios in my evga card if it will work or even edit ma bios ..... don't know if it works, and first of all if it's safe to do!

It's safe, as long as you keep it cool. I used up to 1.3V and it's still alive and kicking.

I think core binning may not depend on VID but other properties too, and there is evidence of a MHz cap most can't push past regardless of VID/vGPU.

Agreed. Pushed up to 1.3V, but 1030MHz is just about all I can get with water cooling.

Is there like a specific crysis or warhead benchmark loop that really stresses out the hardware that much ?

@ Demo - Yeah jump in multiplayer and find a map no one is on, or just game like me in populated maps but make your own squad and lock it so no one joins you or just don't select put me in a squad so you can game alone.

I was just about to say: play Crysis 2 multiplayer demo for couple of hours, it's stressful for graphic card, and releases stress from you. It does the the job for me.

[Asmola]

I started thinking that these DirecCu II 580's doesnt support 1.213.. i get exactly same clocks with stock bios (1.15v) and this modded bios (1.213v).
I need to find my multimeter to confirm that but im pretty sure that's how it is..

Maxed 980MHz on Unigine Heaven. Atleast it's totally stable @ 950MHz 1.125v, and that's fast enough for 24/7..

[Punisher!]

I started thinking that these DirecCu II 580's doesnt support 1.213.. i get exactly same clocks with stock bios (1.15v) and this modded bios (1.213v).
Maxed 980MHz on Unigine Heaven. Atleast it's totally stable @ 950MHz 1.125v, and that's fast enough for 24/7..

So it seems high voltages are in most cases useless with these cards.

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I was just about to say: play Crysis 2 multiplayer demo for couple of hours, it's stressful for graphic card, and releases stress from you. It does the the job for me.

How about the Crysis Ambush demo loop or anything in Crysis warhead? I didnt download Crysis 2 Multiplayer. As of now Im playing Dragon Age 2 and its not a good game to stress the card, thats why Im resorting to automated demo loops.

[donmarkoni]

How about the Crysis Ambush demo loop or anything in Crysis warhead? I didnt download Crysis 2 Multiplayer. As of now Im playing Dragon Age 2 and its not a good game to stress the card, thats why Im resorting to automated demo loops.

Why not. I was just referring you to something that could be fun.

[p3gaz_001]

And what about memory clock? How does it scale with voltage (tipically)?

something like 900mhz -> 2000ram 930mhz 2200mhz 950mhz 2300mhz
but u have to try since i've seen that 2300mhz ram speed is enough to handle diffrerents gpu core speed

Give it some more juice!



Mine is 1.012 VID card and it needs 1.175V for 1000/2000/4800. Cooled with EK GPU Supreme, which is GPU ONLY WB (see below). Used OCZ Freeze thermal paste.




btw looks like by using only a gpu wb, oc is better?? mmhmhmm let me guess, you've got a mcp pump?


It's safe, as long as you keep it cool. I used up to 1.3V and it's still alive and kicking.


pinapple juice is ok??

Agreed. Pushed up to 1.3V, but 1030MHz is just about all I can get with water cooling.

that's a sick speed, congrats!



I was just about to say: play Crysis 2 multiplayer demo for couple of hours, it's stressful for graphic card, and releases stress from you. It does the the job for me.

ye i agree

Maxed 980MHz on Unigine Heaven. Atleast it's totally stable @ 950MHz 1.125v, and that's fast enough for 24/7..[/QUOTE]

i've maxed 975mhz on unigine.. but is fine enough

So it seems high voltages are in most cases useless with these cards.

yes it seems so!

How about the Crysis Ambush demo loop or anything in Crysis warhead? I didnt download Crysis 2 Multiplayer. As of now Im playing Dragon Age 2 and its not a good game to stress the card, thats why Im resorting to automated demo loops.

Crysis Ambush is fine , go for it like 30/50 loops, if you are not stable, u will see it in few loops!

[aussie-revhead]

Agreed. Pushed up to 1.3V, but 1030MHz is just about all I can get with water cooling.

What needs to be done to access vcore higher than 1.213v?

[Alex-Ro]

V-mod.

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Alright, How about GDDR5 stability, I heard these things auto downclock if it goes to high.. would 2200Mhz on a GTX580 be like 100% attainable ?

EDIT:

Looks like ambush is not even able to maintain a constant 90% GPU usage, probably its my Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz thats being a bottleneck to the GPU.

EDIT2:

So today I was just stability testing on my GTX580 its been running at 900Mhz core for quite some time at stock VID of 1.088 and on my first run on heaven 2.5 I got a red colored lens flare rendering glitch, which I fails to repeat it self after i tried 10 more loops. Stability testing on videocard OC's are quite unsatisfying (haha!) using 1.1v is too much for me just to get 900Mhz core, maybe ill just dial down to 850Mhz core and undervolt my GPU.

I wonder how nvidia/evga came up to binning this chip at 1.088v, I mean if the chip can do 1.025v with 850Mhz core why is it binned at 1.088v

[Cookiesowns]

Alright, How about GDDR5 stability, I heard these things auto downclock if it goes to high.. would 2200Mhz on a GTX580 be like 100% attainable ?

EDIT:

Looks like ambush is not even able to maintain a constant 90% GPU usage, probably its my Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz thats being a bottleneck to the GPU.

EDIT2:

So today I was just stability testing on my GTX580 its been running at 900Mhz core for quite some time at stock VID of 1.088 and on my first run on heaven 2.5 I got a red colored lens flare rendering glitch, which I fails to repeat it self after i tried 10 more loops. Stability testing on videocard OC's are quite unsatisfying (haha!) using 1.1v is too much for me just to get 900Mhz core, maybe ill just dial down to 850Mhz core and undervolt my GPU.

I wonder how nvidia/evga came up to binning this chip at 1.088v, I mean if the chip can do 1.025v with 850Mhz core why is it binned at 1.088v

Your Q6600 is def bottlenecking the GPU. It doesn't nearly stress the gpu since you're bottlenecking hence theres no stability issue.

I speak of experience, BFBC2 Q6600 GTX480 Low fps, overclocked a crap load, barely any fps difference.

Went on my 980, GTX480, just simply incredible