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[stasio]

With F8x,I donn't have cold boot(F7e yes) and is much more stable(Main and Backup),but need more Vcore then F7e.

[andressergio]

With F8x,I donn't have cold boot(F8e yes) and is much more stable(Main and Backup),but need more Vcore then F8e.

SP1 needs 4 notch of vcore more than NON SP1 stasio

i have 2 SSD one SP1 RTM one NO SP1 tested all and its that exact so it did my friend OC nub

cheers !
Sergio

[Dumo]

It happened again...Bclk stuck @ 99.8. Probly killed ME in eeprom

[dinos22]

ive had that happen too but bios flash will fix that up mate, just flash the bios with qflash to something different you used, i like this F8x seems alright

[Dumo]

ive had that happen too but bios flash will fix that up mate, just flash the bios with qflash to something different you used, i like this F8x seems alright

Thanks mate
Which one you recommend? I never try F7e. Board is a challange..never a dull moment

[stasio]

SP1 needs 4 notch of vcore more than NON SP1 stasio

i have 2 SSD one SP1 RTM one NO SP1 tested all and its that exact so it did my friend OC nub

cheers !
Sergio

Yes I know,SP1 running here from November.
Will try this combo F7f(Main),F8x(Backup).

BIOS F7f:


BIOS F8x:

[dinos22]

Thanks mate
Which one you recommend? I never try F7e. Board is a challange..never a dull moment

heheh it is a bit at start but once you know what you're doing in terms of settings it should be doing the same thing every time, if not time to clear cmos or flash bios if it wont do certain settings like no bclock change, thats a giveaway the bios may be corrupt


I am using official F7 as backup bios and F8x as main bios and things are very good now even OC fail recovery is much better than it used to be. I used Qflash within bios to flash the F8x

[bassplayer]

So you guys using SP1, have you noticed any performance increases in benchmarks?

[jbkappirossi]

I think everyones trying to aviod setting up the OC again. Otherwise you could just hit clear cmos and start over without the boot loops. For me its really not a loop like on the UD3P p45, that was endless, this has a pattern, normally you can look at post codes and see what its going to do. I get 4E and hangs, sometimes twice, next it makes it to 70 and restarts, then to 75 allowing me into the bio

yes yes! thats what i get. But i first need to go in to the bios to set my overclock again to get past the 4E error. sometimes it works on the first go and sometimes i need to do that 3 times for it to work. Thats the strange thing.

I'm talking about the "PLL overvoltage" setting. This has nothing to do with the PLL voltage and doesn't affect the pll reading either. Sin measured it and the pll voltage measurement is unaffected by the CPU PLL Overvoltage setting. The cpu pll overvoltage setting allows higher multipliers to work, but causes strange OC failures, even at stock settings that would be fine with it disabled. But you need it enabled on some cpus to get high multipliers to work like 48+.

AAA oke! i thought it was the same thing and that PLL voltage setting wuld overide the overvotage setting. So i wil disable it, because i think its on auto now.

ive testted a few CPUs and one of them in particular needs to boot with a lot more vcore than it needs in windows to be stable so for example if it was a 1.35v prime stable chip id need it going into windows at 1.4

maybe try that on your system and see if your chips is like that

Yes ive read it a couple of times, but thats not the problem.
And thats the strange thing about it, because when i get the 4E error it won't even boot @ 1.5 where as before i needed 1.35.
Its just if as that 4E bug occurs it holds everything back. Until it is releast through a bios flash or setting it first to default and than reentering the OC again.


i'm using F8x

[andressergio]

So you guys using SP1, have you noticed any performance increases in benchmarks?

im testing since first releases and worked as a charm i feel system faster or maybe its placebo effect dunno but i decided to go serious on testings and put 1 SSD with NO SP1 and one with SP1 RTM and benches no difference, in some cases scores more NON SP1

about the GFlops dif on LINX i really dont know if its a flaw or its the new memory management that SP1 brings

But 4 nothches more of vcore dont justify going to it inmo

cheers
Sergio

[andressergio]

Yes I know,SP1 running here from November.
Will try this combo F7f(Main),F8x(Backup).

BIOS F7f:

whats new on F7f stasio ? can i load it with Qflash or no ?

cheers
Sergio

[eva2000]

heheh it is a bit at start but once you know what you're doing in terms of settings it should be doing the same thing every time, if not time to clear cmos or flash bios if it wont do certain settings like no bclock change, thats a giveaway the bios may be corrupt


I am using official F7 as backup bios and F8x as main bios and things are very good now even OC fail recovery is much better than it used to be. I used Qflash within bios to flash the F8x

been using F8x since it came out, definitely best bios to date for me

[andressergio]

been using F8x since it came out, definitely best bios to date for me

cool eva will give a try

[andressergio]

heheh it is a bit at start but once you know what you're doing in terms of settings it should be doing the same thing every time, if not time to clear cmos or flash bios if it wont do certain settings like no bclock change, thats a giveaway the bios may be corrupt


I am using official F7 as backup bios and F8x as main bios and things are very good now even OC fail recovery is much better than it used to be. I used Qflash within bios to flash the F8x

thx dinnos

[Dumo]

F7e for me seems like more stable, faster in high multies bench...and with less Vcore too.

Take off all usb peripherals when oc from bios...it will help to avoid endless post code 50 hangs

[sin0822]

thx dinnos

there is LINX optimized for the specific AVX instruction set.

[dinos22]

4E is an overclock failure on CPU ratio most likely since CPU outputs maximum loading at this stage. I am speaking to bios team about a few different things and we are trying to get some concrete and replicable issues but at the moment nothing consistently shows a fail. There should be a timer for 4E error to reset the bios and let you load up defaults and then go back into bios and change settings but if it isnt working for you let me you may have to clear cmos until it's addressed a bit better.

if anyone seriously wants something sorted you need to provide system spec in a post and procedure how to get the error to show up every time. The only other suggestion i have if you do encounter certain errors is to flash the main bios again just to be certain the bios isnt suffering from some corruption or whatnot

[chew*]

been using F8x since it came out, definitely best bios to date for me

I think f8X recovers from failed oc alot better and may be just a tad more effec, but what it gains in effec it loses in about 20mhz stable for benching over f7e.

These are just my thoughts though, when you find a better chip give it a shot, may only pertain to higher frequency clocks.

[jbkappirossi]

@ Dinos22
mostly it is reproducible by resetting system wile in windows, but youre right i will look further into it an see if i can reproduce it on camera.

[dinos22]

the idea is to have specific set of steps to send to bios guys so that they can replicate it and then try address that specific issue, we're on the same page

[OC Nub]

4E is an overclock failure on CPU ratio most likely since CPU outputs maximum loading at this stage. I am speaking to bios team about a few different things and we are trying to get some concrete and replicable issues but at the moment nothing consistently shows a fail. There should be a timer for 4E error to reset the bios and let you load up defaults and then go back into bios and change settings but if it isnt working for you let me you may have to clear cmos until it's addressed a bit better.

if anyone seriously wants something sorted you need to provide system spec in a post and procedure how to get the error to show up every time. The only other suggestion i have if you do encounter certain errors is to flash the main bios again just to be certain the bios isnt suffering from some corruption or whatnot

The 4E will recover on its own, it just has a little longer recovery period than on previous boards. But if I get 4E I just hit reset, the board powers off, hit power button, it will 4E again and power off, I hit the power button again, then it goes past 4e code to 50 then 70 reboot and then will go to 75 and allow you back to bios, not a big deal. Im more than mildy ocd so I cant help but to watch the post codes everytime it boots.

Only a couple times has it failed to recover and do the endless reboot at C1, trying something stupid with memory caused this. With f7e and f8X I havent had it happen at all.

Setting the multi higher than the chip will boot at causes 4E, also going above your max bclk.

[nijel]

dinos22, please, could you talk to the bios guys to unhide [Any Kay] option in Power Management Setup > Power On By Keyboard. I really like it for easy PC_ON, no need to reach the power button. I have to mess with _EN_CODE.bin for every bios coming out to show it and make it selectable. I do this for the last 3-4 years with every gigabyte board I had. I can't get it why they need to hide it. It always worked for me, it's not like giving problems or something. Doesn't make any sense to hide so simple but useful feature from us.

[dinos22]

yeah thats true


C1 is memory related you are right, the IMC just freaks out at that point probably going homie what the fluck are you thinking, OC fail

[dinos22]

dinos22, please, could you talk to the bios guys to unhide [Any Kay] option in Power Management Setup > Power On By Keyboard. I really like it for easy PC_ON, no need to reach the power button. I have to mess with _EN_CODE.bin for every bios coming out to show it and make it selectable. I do this for the last 3-4 years with every gigabyte board I had. I can't get it why they need to hide it. It always worked for me, it's not like giving problems or something. Doesn't make any sense to hide so simple but useful feature from us.

OK i will make a suggestion but before i do can you tell me if you are able to click on the mouse and get it out of standby?

Ive never had this issue with any GBT board ive had but i must admit i just click on my mouse and it wakes up from S3 standby?

[nijel]

Thanks for that.
Yes, mouse click works, but every small unintentional mouse movement wakes it up also and that's why I use the keyboard and not the mouse.