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If your annoyed by sigs telling you to put things in your sig, then put this in your sig
Bribery won't work on me...just say NO to AT!!!
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The sticker faces down, I'll never see it once the cards are installed in the computer. I wonder why folks don't have stickers on the top edges of the card instead.
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Full covers are faced up in inverted atx layout cases. For backside of cards in common layout cases one can purchase backplates.
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My Water Cooling Case Build (closed)
Thats what I wondered about this whole thing...we made designs and then a nice one was picked, but then gabe came back with a design totally different (and much less attractive imo) and stated it was final. I didn't understand why we threw out suggestions to start out with. I mean, I was also hoping the "Komodo HD 6970" would be down at the bottom of the sticker to line up better with the "Powered by Swiftech" logo, it looks out of place.
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It is interesting that you are saying this, because as a matter of fact, I ended up using a well known graphics designer to design the sticker; he requested to be kept anonymous, but has been involved with a leading company in our industry. The man is 30 years old. Does this qualify for belonging to this decade ?
I think the above explains what happened. I decided to use a profesional designer. This decision was not based on this particular product in fact, but rather a general Company direction to use professional design services going forward.
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First of all, comments and the end of the first answer with both of each's rudeness aside ... the design isn't horrible. I don't think anyone should make it out to be horrible, or say that it's bad, but I personally would have preferred to see the red pattern/dragon/no dragon design or a more minimalist design make the card's sticker. In my opinion, the sticker is way to busy to be on a water cooling product. Heck, we'd all be happy with the block if it had no sticker at all. (I'm sure a lot of people could vouch for this.) The design was just completely different than what everyone was expecting, and when people aren't used to something, or are forced to change, there will usually be consequences. IMO, there's nothing wrong with using what seems to me as the block internals and some screw holes as the design, but that was definately not something we were able to explore as all we saw was above the sticker.
I totally understand why the designer would like to remain anonymous, considering the harsh feedback given here. I will say one thing though, that little bit at the bottom right was Pado's idea, and essentially, he got no credit for it. I'm also a guy for symmetry, and I really would have liked to see that "cluster" of words there to be down at the "Powered by Swiftech" logo, considering they were of nearly equal size.
Sorry if this splice attached is crude, but it's easy to see what I mean.
Whoever the designer is, he has great talent, but in my opinion there are just too many things going on at once.
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Does the statement above mean more of your products will be coming with stickers attached???
I must agree there were some very nice designs submitted by XS members that I think would have looked better on the end product, but in the end no sticker would have looked of higher quality and fit to most builds IMO.
Just because you are a well known graphics designer it doesn't always make you the best for the task at hand. You had some very nice ideas submitted by the consumer that would be buying your product and in the end I think they would have been the best graphics designer for your task. Just my 2cents!!
The current sticker design just looks incomplete and does not flow with the block IMO. But in the end it was your decision and I wish you luck with your design.
Last edited by Crazy V; 02-11-2011 at 08:57 PM.
Honestly the whole stickers on products reminds me of those old Nintendo Power sticker sets you would end up putting on a Gameboy or NES pad, then realize they look terrible and it's never going to come off clean.
I realize it's being used to hide the numerous screws, but if the community can handle acrylic tops with visible screw mounts and O-ring layouts I think they can handle screw heads.
Circles SucQ!
If your annoyed by sigs telling you to put things in your sig, then put this in your sig
Bribery won't work on me...just say NO to AT!!!
WL, beat ya![]()
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My Water Cooling Case Build (closed)
I agree 100%
As a graphic designer, I can tell that time went into that design, it has a "professional" look, but I find it overkill and simply distracting. Maybe the dude wants to remain anonymous, but he should have a read in this thread, maybe his finger is not on the "pulse" of watercooling, but some other part of the industry. (That looks like a stock gpu fan sticker that you would find on a high-end gpu blower)
/rant over
How about shipping the sticker separate, or/and with a blank sticker and template, to let people design their own sticker.
P.S. Gabriel, I'm looking for work.... want to see my portfolio ?
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Tagan black pearl (lian-li v2000)
Water: mcp655, mcr320 with ultra kazes, GTZ, mcr60, micro-res,
black primochill, bitspower comp. fittings
I dunno about you guys, but I would take performance over looks. Who really cares about a sticker. Remove the sticker if you don't like it, or get some solid black sticker and put it over it.
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Personally i don't like the whole sticker thing, plus this "stock cooler" design...
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IMHO (regarding the water blocks):
#1: max performance
Once that is achieved,
#2: price
#3: looks
2 & 3 can be swapped for premium models, but I expect most products to follow this criteria...
Besides, it's really hard to make a very ugly waterblock anyway... Simple stuff usually looks pretty good and is cheap to produce.
Last edited by zalbard; 02-12-2011 at 03:51 PM.
I'm with u ppl on performance but remember that we're talking about vga fc blocks...
Performance isn't the number one cause there are no real life oc gains from different wb's...
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Asus Rampage II Extreme
Intel I7 920 D0 3930A @ 4.50GHz (21 X 214mhz)
3 x 2GB G.Skill Trident 1600 @ 1716MHz (6-8-6-20-1N)
2 x Asus HD 6870 CrossFire @ 1000/1100MHz
OCZ Vertex 2 60GB | Intel X25-M 120GB | WD Velociraptor 150GB | Seagate FreeAgent XTreme 1.5TB esata
Asus Xonar DX | Logitech Z-5500 | LG W2600HP 26" S-IPS LCD
Watercooling setup:
1st loop -> Radiator: 2 x ThermoChill PA120.3 | Pump: Laing DDC-3.25 with Alphacool HF 38 top | CPU: Swiftech Apogee XT | Chipset: Swiftech MCW-NBMAX | Tubing: Masterkleer 1/2" UV
2nd loop -> Radiator: ThermoChill PA120.3 | Pump: Laing DDC-3.2 with Alphacool HF 38 top | GPU: 2 x EK FC-6870 | Tubing: Masterkleer 1/2" UV
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Seriously?! We're gonna lose our minds and rip into a well respected Manufacturer over a stupid sticker?
Gabe, just ignore the peanut gallery. Your never going to please everyone all the time and the trolls even less...just keep making great products.![]()
Circles SucQ!
If your annoyed by sigs telling you to put things in your sig, then put this in your sig
Bribery won't work on me...just say NO to AT!!!
Sticker shmicker. Who REALLY cares about the sticker? no one, but when you hold a design contest, AND come to the biggest herd of WC'ers, you're going to get you comments and flames. All the unhappy people that actually BUY this block can just deal with the sticker in the way they wish.
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i3 530 @ 4.2 ghz, evga FTW, 4 gig gskill trident @ 1600 6-8-6-24, XFX 4870 1gb, corsair 620hx, 2 x kinston 64gig ssd raid0, 300 gig Velociraptor, 2Tb WD green,
Tagan black pearl (lian-li v2000)
Water: mcp655, mcr320 with ultra kazes, GTZ, mcr60, micro-res,
black primochill, bitspower comp. fittings
yes, it very well maybe, but I already stated the primary reason why I went for a pro: it was a business decison.
@waterlogged: yes, that's why I always give myself some time before I decide to either answer or ignore some of the comments I read.
@everybody, re. performance :
some of my competitors went back to thermal pads for the vrm's because the temps are not reported by the card. I went for direct contact, irrespective of the fact that no one will ever see the difference, unless they stick some sort of high-end probe in there, which is mechanically very difficult. I also really worked on fine-tuning that direct contact, again, irrespective of the fact that no one will really be able to measure the results.
People in the know will be able to tell, when they disassemble the card and inspect their vr's TIM imprint.
As far as GPU cooling cooling is concerned, our pin matrix remains on top of the performance charts as far as I know, but I also worked hard on this to remove as much restriction as possible in order to give the card moderate pressure drop.
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