[EA] Battlefield 3 Officially Announced + Preorder

[ryboto]

Err.. there IS hardcore mode in BC2, you know.

No regen, no minimap etc.
Healthpacks are a thing of the past more because it encourages camping/survival to avoid frustration rather than task-based objective gameplay.

I feel like hardcore mode makes things even more run and gun. Instead of relying on a medic for support, you're essentially on your own. I don't see your argument against healthpacks, since my friends and I in BF2 were the ones taking capture points, I was the medic. The only times we'd camp was to defend the last point, or when the commander ordered our squad to.

At least regarding single player, health packs are a much more challenging implementation than Wolverine heal. Both are unrealistic nonetheless.

MoH:AA back in 2002, i remember having to carefully go my way with <20% of HP until i found a heaven-sent health pack which would then let me be careless again

Any regen health game kills that challenge by simply staying out of bullets' reach long enough to be good as new.

Exactly, it reduces challenge. It reduces the amount you have to rely on a squad for support, since you really don't get any.

Health packs aren't any less arcadey when you've just been riddled with bullets and are running around just fine 30 seconds later. Trying to cast that as much more realistic than regeneration is a futile exercise (each soldier could have his own health packs).

I hope they build on both BF2 and BC2 in their designs for BF3. BF2 isn't some gold standard compared to BC2 like some of you would have us think. They both have their strengths.

They are less arcadey in the sense that you need a medic to give the health pack. You have to rely on a teammate for help, instead of being able to regenerate the health after taking a rocket to the chest, you can't be a one man army. I really hope they don't listen to you. BC2 made too many mistakes, and seemed too much like a console port/COD run and gun clone.