Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD5 Discussion Thread

[dinos22]

i dont think they can just make a ratio, if its not in intel spec i dont know how they can do that

Anvil i have that ram definitely no issues on my side

[Falkentyne]

@Falkentyne

Do you happen to have a PCI card on the motherboard ? I'm theorizing here that the cold boot issues might be connected to the PCI slots somehow.


@scccm seems to be with a PCI card. Which slot did you plug your card to and do you have issues when you shut down the computer and boot up later ?


Thanks for your help in advance.

Yes I have a soundblaster X-fi PCI.
How do you know its related to the PCI Card for sure? Because people on the asus forums were having cold boot problems until a beta bios came out....

BTW I did notice something.
If I set all auto voltages, the computer does not shut down after a reboot from windows (I only saw a shutdown after saving bios settings, when I went from 5 ghz to 4 ghz and turned off CPU PLL overvolt). but if I set manual voltages, the computer often powers down after attempting to reboot from windows.

I read the guide and tried all auto voltages, and all autovoltages seem (for now) to stop warm boot problems (rebooting) most of the time.
I also don't have "cold boot" problems with the all auto voltages, (had to power off with the powerbutton due to windows 7 blue screening while trying to initialize something on the desktop) but i did NOT test a complete power off (unplugging the PSU) yet.

[C-N]

i dont think they can just make a ratio, if its not in intel spec i dont know how they can do that

Clunk mentions some Asus boards have it & I have seen Coolaler run CL9 2400 with a 99.8BCLK...... I'm sure its doable just GB might not be happy to roll it out if its sketchy. Worth an ask though.

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overc...ginners-2.html

http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=252282

[stasio]

ASRock Beta version BIOS added nice function.."Add screen capture function in BIOS setup. Press F12 to capture."
Dino notice this to Taiwan guys.

[Alex-Ro]

They have to implement UEFI first then add that function 2400 mem speed would be nice,so far only asus on maximus 4 extreme has it,but at the price of performance,for example in 3dmark2001 maximus 4 extreme scores about 5-6K lower compare to a Gigabyte board

[C-N]

ASRock Beta version BIOS added nice function.."Add screen capture function in BIOS setup. Press F12 to capture."
Dino notice this to Taiwan guys.

Would be a nice enhancement if it can be done.

They have to implement UEFI first then add that function 2400 mem speed would be nice,so far only asus on maximus 4 extreme has it,but at the price of performance,for example in 3dmark2001 maximus 4 extreme scores about 5-6K lower compare to a Gigabyte board

Good bit of info there

I sort of guessed as much by Praz's reply & if thats the GB answer so be it even if it requires a new board revision.

[damsxx]

LLC = standard , amazing vdrop IDLE 1.42 load 1.36 vcore set in bios 1.48v !!!!
100.3mhz Bclock
strapp 2133 = cold boot but when windows started = rock solid
batch i7 2600K L042B074
P67a-UD5 F6d main bios and backup

[damsxx]

oops 2nd post

[C-N]

LLC = auto , amazing vdrop IDLE 1.42 load 1.36 vcore set in bios 1.48v !!!!

I am having issues with the vcore stability as well now more evident further up the MHz scale, I think your auto setting has set standard, maybe try level 1 although that will overshoot by as much as std droops.

I think GB are doing something with the loadlines atm but it wants/should run something more like this std = droop whatever it is even up to 0.5 level 1 tiny bit of droop .02/3 tops but none would be nice like my DFI X58 level 2 maybe .02/3 overvolt.

[Neuromancer]

They have to implement UEFI first then add that function 2400 mem speed would be nice,so far only asus on maximus 4 extreme has it,but at the price of performance,for example in 3dmark2001 maximus 4 extreme scores about 5-6K lower compare to a Gigabyte board

P8P67 has 2400 divider also. I was unable to boot it yet though, to used to X58 and tweaking slower ram.

[TurboDiv]

strapp 2133 = cold boot but when windows started = rock solid

Thats what i was happy about. As soon as you manage to get to windows with the settings, its stable and fast but when i wanted 24/7 rig - cold boot starts to annoy you after a few times. So every time i start up the machine i just pump the DELETE key so i can go in bios SAVE & Exit and than i begin using the computer. lol

[Clunk]

Clunk mentions some Asus boards have it & I have seen Coolaler run CL9 2400 with a 99.8BCLK...... I'm sure its doable just GB might not be happy to roll it out if its sketchy. Worth an ask though.

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overc...ginners-2.html

http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=252282

It seems the 2400MHz multi on the P8P67 Deluxe isn't functional yet, at least not with the majority of mainstream CPUs, from what I can gather, it's for cherry picked CPUs that will run it, but most can't, and Asus say that we will have to wait for improved CPUs from Intel for this to work. Seems odd to leave it in there if that's the case.

It's certainly not working on mine, just a BSON.

[TurboDiv]

Just found if i leave everything on AUTO in the memory section, machine fires up properly w/o any problems at 4.9 ghz. But sucks to have 1333mhz CL9 as a default. If i change anything in the memory section manually the mobo says FAILED clock. What a joke...

[dinos22]

Turbo it has to be a combo of your ram and CPU or something else because ive got testing done and only 21.33 showed some CB related issues nothing else


i am yet to see anyone post anything stable with that ratio they have, sounds like a rubber duck that option to me

[TurboDiv]

I'm pretty sure its memory incompatibility. I hope G.Skill sends them some memories to try out and adjust the BIOS. I tried both slots 2/4 and 1/3, same thing. I cant even set the memory manually to 1300 CL9, failed clock. But when i set it to auto it starts up 1333 CL9 no problem. lol

ps; I want to stress that this behavior only happens when the machine is COLD BOOTED, when its been sitting shut down for a few minutes. After it boots up and when i go in bios i can adjust the memory and it is working flawlessly at 2133mhz 7-10-7-27 1T + 4.9 ghz CPU but only until i shut it down and after that i would need to go in bios and adjust it again...

[damsxx]

I am having issues with the vcore stability as well now more evident further up the MHz scale, I think your auto setting has set standard, maybe try level 1 although that will overshoot by as much as std droops.

I think GB are doing something with the loadlines atm but it wants/should run something more like this std = droop whatever it is even up to 0.5 level 1 tiny bit of droop .02/3 tops but none would be nice like my DFI X58 level 2 maybe .02/3 overvolt.

do you have any idea about this phenomen :

LLC standart vcore set in bios 1.48 / IDLE 1.42 / LOAD 1.36
Linx stable at 5GHZ

LLC Level 1 Vcore set in bios 1.375 / IDLE 1.392 / LOAD 1.416
Linx stable at 5GHZ

LLC Level 1 Vcore set in bios 1.370v NO BOOT
i think that my CPU can do 5GHZ solid a 1.36V ( due to LOAD in LLC on standard ) but why the MB cannot boot if LLC is set on LVL 1 ?
i don't understand

[C-N]

do you have any idea about this phenomenon :

LLC standard vcore set in bios 1.48 / IDLE 1.42 / LOAD 1.36
Linx stable at 5GHZ

LLC Level 1 Vcore set in bios 1.375 / IDLE 1.392 / LOAD 1.416
Linx stable at 5GHZ

LLC Level 1 Vcore set in bios 1.370v NO BOOT
i think that my CPU can do 5GHZ solid a 1.36V ( due to LOAD in LLC on standard ) but why the MB cannot boot if LLC is set on LVL 1 ?
i don't understand

Have you re tested 1.36v, my 2600 ran 1.33 bios on its first run then needed 1.35 for its second & so on. The chips burn in especially after weeks of LinX at crazy clocks pounding the nutz off them not to mention the damage SP1 & AVX do!!!

If you are sure your chip can still do 5GHz 1.36 than ye you are seeing something similar to me. I can no longer run std @ 5GHz it needs over 1.55v bios so I gave up. I can start high from bios & ET the voltage down but this has little or no effect at 5GHz or 5.1 it only works for me at 5.2. I'm no bios engineer so shouldn't diss those in such a position but the v drop & droop on this board combined with the level 1 overshoot & failure of level 2 are quite poor imo & unlike anything I have ever seen before.

That said you got to remember this is a new platform & we are running 5GHz here that's flippin awesome. The only reason I am bent about the UD5 voltages is coz I want to go faster & I know the UD5 can do it.....

[flesheatinvirus]

Yup. I would have to agree with your findings as I see the very same things going on here, we are doing the field R&D on this infant ud5.

[OC Maximus]

Yup. I would have to agree with your findings as I see the very same things going on here, we are doing the field R&D on this infant ud5.

Yes sir......

[Anvil]

Anvil i have that ram definitely no issues on my side

I've tried another set of Corsairs, XMS 2000, with the same result, using bios F3 up through F6d.

First cold boot having upgraded the bios is OK but as soon as I Save and Exit with only a few changes (RAID, disable 1394, eSATA AHCI) it acts up.
It seemed like it was more willing to cold boot using IDE mode but I won't be using that option
The only thing I haven't tried changing is the PSU, Keyboard and the GPU.

I'll try the cpu/memory on a different MB, just to rule out some of the variables.

BTW, why aren't 3Gb/s SSDs recognized by the Intel 6Gb/s ports?
I've tried Intel G1s and they wont show up. (the C300s do work )

[bartman1973]

SO are going to see a new bios or its the same interface?

taken from this link : http://gigabytedaily.blogspot.com/20...echnology.html

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[damsxx]

Have you re tested 1.36v, my 2600 ran 1.33 bios on its first run then needed 1.35 for its second & so on. The chips burn in especially after weeks of LinX at crazy clocks pounding the nutz off them not to mention the damage SP1 & AVX do!!!

If you are sure your chip can still do 5GHz 1.36 than ye you are seeing something similar to me. I can no longer run std @ 5GHz it needs over 1.55v bios so I gave up. I can start high from bios & ET the voltage down but this has little or no effect at 5GHz or 5.1 it only works for me at 5.2. I'm no bios engineer so shouldn't diss those in such a position but the v drop & droop on this board combined with the level 1 overshoot & failure of level 2 are quite poor imo & unlike anything I have ever seen before.

That said you got to remember this is a new platform & we are running 5GHz here that's flippin awesome. The only reason I am bent about the UD5 voltages is coz I want to go faster & I know the UD5 can do it.....

sorry for my beginner question
but in fact it starts at 1.35 and 1.36v
so i'm going to test stability at 1.35V LLC 1 now
this chip is not so bad


EDIT : STrap 1866 or 2133 give cold boot for me



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[C-N]

sorry for my beginner question
but in fact it starts at 1.35 and 1.36v
so i'm going to test stability at 1.35V LLC 1 now
this chip is not so bad

Looks very good my friend

When you get the cold boot look at what the board has re-set back to default.... sometimes ram speed, sometimes cpu multi & sometimes it looks like nothing which I would say is a voltage issue. I only get cold boot problems when something is wrong....

Edit.... you might want to install SP1 if you are using W7, Otherwise your low vcore testing will have to be done again when you do install SP1

[damsxx]

do you have a link to DL SP1 please ?

[C-N]

do you have a link to DL SP1 please ?

There are many but I used this one

http://www.ngohq.com/news/19212-wind...k-1-final.html