BTW, regarding my stated disbelief in good price/performance of this non orthodox rad design posted in this thread long time ago - while 40K eur might sound a lot in our community (everything aside, hats off to FrozenCPU for wishing to spank with something revolutionary current LC world stagnating in slow micro-evolution and putting investments in it), i'm guessing that world wide miscellaneous rad manufacturers/cooling system designers invested millions during more then half a century (i'm widely guessing on how old common rad design might be) .. and at the end what the world came up with and sticked to? - common rad design. Few engineers in team against the world? It's hard to buy genius inventor story. It's very possible for new rads to have serious drawback at some area, if not performance, then price (=much lower margin of profit, if not selling at loss, for product to still be competitive to contemporary rads, made for cheap at chinese factories, but nevertheless - for cheap). I root for FrozenCPU efforts, but am cynicaly pragmatic SOB to hope for success/certain win.