GTX 560 Coming soon!

[highoctane]

Now, my point is this; for 8 PolyMorph engines to be in use that would give you... wait for it... 384 CUDA cores. So this GTX560, could, in fact, be the GTX460 rebadged with a different BIOS enabling that unused PolyMorph engine.

It really doesn't matter at all if the performance and price hit the right points.

[DarthShader]

Umm, it was known from day one, since the reviews appeared, that the GTX460 has one Streaming Multiprocessor of the eight disabled. And it was speculated by the malicious from day one, since the rumours appeared, that the GF114 might infact be a rebranded GF104 with everything enabled. So you didn't come up with anything new here.

But the GTX560 BIOS will certainly be worth trying on a GTX460... until someone bricks his card.

[cegras]

Umm, it was known from day one, since the reviews appeared, that the GTX460 has one Streaming Multiprocessor of the eight disabled. And it was speculated by the malicious from day one, since the rumours appeared, that the GF114 might infact be a rebranded GF104 with everything enabled. So you didn't come up with anything new here.

But the GTX560 BIOS will certainly be worth trying on a GTX460... until someone bricks his card.

Doubt it. I'm pretty sure the GTX 460 has the one part lasered off or something, otherwise we would have seen an 8 SP part by now.

[cold2010]

[kaktus1907]

From Cold2010's source says GTX 560 will be 1999 yuan same as 6950 2Gb..

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9010033443
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=8849571997

[JohnZS]

These cards should have 2GB of VRAM

[Pantsu]

I wouldn't worry about 1GB memory, I'm sure there will be AIBs who will make 2GB version too. And it will mostly go to waste anyways unless you plan on getting two for Nvidia surround.

[Olivon]

According to PHK, GTX 560 Ti (overclocked version of GTX 560 ?) runs faster than HD6950.

A source revealed to me that performance will GTX 560 Ti just over HD6950 ...

Specific performance is the GTX 460 1GBx 1.38% ...

http://bbs.expreview.com/thread-39066-1-1.html

[Lanek]

38% faster of the 460 ,,, yeah ofcourse, this will put it faster of the GTX570 ( or GTX480 ) .... expect just match 470+2-3% performance, it will just match the Overclocked retail average 460 1gb, nothing more ..

480 +2% = GTX570....

[Olivon]

38% faster of the 460 ,,, yeah ofcourse, this will put it faster of the GTX570 ( or GTX480 ) .... expect just match 470+2-3% performance, it will just match the Overclocked retail average 460 1gb, nothing more ..

480 +2% = GTX570.... put it between 470-480 and you have the GTX560.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...ating_mit_aaaf

[Lanek]

huuum, i was not think the GTX460 is so slow. 16% under the 6870 ?

[Olivon]

huuum, i was not think the GTX460 is so slow.

GTX 460 "raison d'être" is overclocking dude

[Lanek]

GTX 460 "raison d'être" is overclocking dude

Je suis trop habitué aux résultats des SOC et autres Superclocked d' Evga je crois ...

" trad for the english " too used to see the result of Superclocked GTX460 it seems.

But still i don't see them push 38% more of the GF104........ Nvidia said 5% on GF110 was coming from the refine of the architecture ( 32SP+tweak ) the rest is coming from the clock of shaders and memory.. ( source official slides of nvidia for the GTX580 release ) ....

At same time if we take computerbase perf summary, at 2560x1600, the GTX560 need 102% more..

[Vardant]

http://translate.google.com/translat...1.html&act=url

[Jodiuh]

Am I reading that chart right? That the 6870's 73% of a 560 in 3D11? Cause 6870 gets P4269 from a 4Ghz 760. Any idea what CPU they're using?

[cold2010]

and this

[Picao84]

Am I reading that chart right? That the 6870's 73% of a 560 in 3D11? Cause 6870 gets P4269 from a 4Ghz 760. Any idea what CPU they're using?

It looks like UniEngine Heaven 2.1 to me. Not 3DMark 11.

[Jodiuh]

Thanks. I didn't see Heaven numbers, so overlook that completely. I've never ran Vantage on any of these things either, so no idea what's going on there.

[Pantsu]

So 30% faster than a GTX 460? Pretty much what it should be considering the clocks and enabled cores. That would put it in between 6870 and 6950 and most likely price will be around 250$.

[DarthShader]

So that X1395 score is inline with the expectations I'd say.

The other chart looks wierd though - what kind of a GTX460 was used that came so close the the 6870?

[Lanek]

Rumors say 820mhz for the 560Ti, so i believe it wil be easy to get perfs idea by checking the 460 Overclocked EVGA version. +3-5%

@ Darthshader, look the screens, PhysX enabled on the chinese sites for Vantage .

[DarthShader]

Oh, right, didn't look close enough, thanks.

Comparing to a 460 with only 7 SMs enabled won't be that easy - the scaling of the 8th SM should be pretty decent, more like 7% minimum.

[Lanek]

GTX 480 > GTX580 the optimisation scaling is 5% average following Nvidia (32SP+ tweaks )... I don't know if the tweaks have the same impact, the rest of the performance gain is coming from the clock speed, and there ofc it will be really different of the GF100-110 cause we don't speak about a 70mhz increase only.

Anway following the move of latest Nvidia 5xx: it's not really hard to imagine where the perf aim .. GTX570 = ~GTX480 perf level ( 1-2%) - GTX560 = ~ GTX470 + 5 % perf level in average....

this will make a nice line in perfs level between 560 +15 % > 570 + 15 % > 580.

[Sam_oslo]

So 30% faster than a GTX 460? Pretty much what it should be considering the clocks and enabled cores. That would put it in between 6870 and 6950 and most likely price will be around 250$.

With your performance numbers, if true, this will land pretty close to newly announced 6970 1GB. In case, it can be the start of a good price-war in midrange. Then we can expect a good price on this, maybe 199$ ?

[Jodiuh]

470's can be had from local fry's for $230 - $20 MIR right now. But of course it's plenty hot.

After owning a 6870 for a few days I am ready to go running right back to Nvidia, haha.