The case is skeletonized. It's completely open.
The case is skeletonized. It's completely open.
Particle's First Rule of Online Technical Discussion:
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Rule 1A:
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Rule 3:
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
I think my chip is high leakage. vid at stock is 1.275, will sometimes drop under load to 1.257.
right now I I just did 4.0ghz with 1.38 4 hours volts dropping on load to 1.332. :/ LLC is disabled.
My Nb is at 3.0ghz on 1.3 volts too.
HAVE NO FEAR!
"AMD fallen angel"
Originally Posted by Gamekiller
You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
Finally got this 1090T straightend out.
For some wierd reason it didn't want to play well with my Corsair Hypers reguardless of timings. Swapped it out for a BBSE kit and all is golden!
I can probably tighten mem timings, but after all my hassle with the other kit I wanted to make sure it was out of the equation.
CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE
CPU Stepping: CCBBE CB 1025 GPWM
CPU Frequency: 4156 MHz
CPU vCore: 1.45V
IMC vCore: 1.265V
CPU Multiplier: 19x
CPU Turbo: Disabled
CPU NB Speed: 3062 MHz
HT Ref Speed: 218 MHz
RAM Speed: DDR3-1750
RAM Timings: 6-9-6-18-1T
RAM Configuration: 4 GB (2 x 2 GB)
RAM vDIMM: 1.6V
Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair IV Formula
Chipset/Socket: AM3, 890FX + SB850
Cooling: Custom Water
Temps: 26C Idle / 49C Load
Operating System: Windows 7
32/64-Bit: 64
Stable/Suicide/Untested: Stable
Particle: I tightened up Ram timings and let it run this afternoon while I was out (over 4hrs)....
It's your call how you want to list it, but these are much better.
Last edited by Daveburt714; 01-09-2011 at 06:33 PM. Reason: New Ram Timings
AMD FX-8350 (1237 PGN) | Asus Crosshair V Formula (bios 1703) | G.Skill 2133 CL9 @ 2230 9-11-10 | Sapphire HD 6870 | Samsung 830 128Gb SSD / 2 WD 1Tb Black SATA3 storage | Corsair TX750 PSU
Watercooled ST 120.3 & TC 120.1 / MCP35X XSPC Top / Apogee HD Block | WIN7 64 Bit HP | Corsair 800D Obsidian Case
First Computer: Commodore Vic 20 (circa 1981).
By these standards I guess I'm "Untested". Never did much believe in such long stability tests.
* CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 95w
* CPU Stepping:
* CPU Frequency: 4004 MHz
* CPU vCore: 1.504V
* CPU Multiplier: 14x
* CPU Turbo: Disabled
* CPU NB Speed: 2860 MHz
* HT Ref Speed: 286 MHz
* RAM Speed: DDR3-1524
* RAM Timings: 7-9-9-30-1T
* RAM Configuration: 4 GB (2 x 2 GB)
* RAM vDIMM: 1.70V
* Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
* Chipset/Socket: AM3, 890GX + SB850
* Cooling: Air (Thermalright Archon)
* Temps: 22C Idle / 62C Load
* Operating System: Windows 7
* 32/64-Bit: 64
* Stable/Suicide/Untested: Untested
--Matt
My Rig :
Core i5 4570S - ASUS Z87I-DELUXE - 16GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 - 256GB Plextor M5 Pro Xtreme
I don't usually either, but I thought I had it stable until it kept throwing errors in WCG...
Just figured since I had ran it that long I might as well get a chip on the stable list.
AMD FX-8350 (1237 PGN) | Asus Crosshair V Formula (bios 1703) | G.Skill 2133 CL9 @ 2230 9-11-10 | Sapphire HD 6870 | Samsung 830 128Gb SSD / 2 WD 1Tb Black SATA3 storage | Corsair TX750 PSU
Watercooled ST 120.3 & TC 120.1 / MCP35X XSPC Top / Apogee HD Block | WIN7 64 Bit HP | Corsair 800D Obsidian Case
First Computer: Commodore Vic 20 (circa 1981).
I know I seem like sort of a hard-ass when it comes to stability requirements, but it doesn't do us much good if we list unstable clocks in the chart as stable. The whole idea is to give people a realistic idea of what are fairly reliable trends. You can see the discrepency, too, as I did even with one 1090T I used. It would run great at 4.2 GHz. I played games and whatnot. Turns out it wasn't actually fully stable above about 3850. It would do a reliable 7-10 minutes before crashing most of the time, so it was probably a heat management problem. People like us tend to run chips like that all the time. "Seems fine for daily use" but not actually stable for one reason or another.
WCG is a good test, but it's hard to translate its usage scenario into a formal requirement for validation. It doesn't really have a "prove to the user it ran full tilt for x hours" burn-in mode that can be nicely captured in a screen shot.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
before anyone says anyone says anything those are knees not a butt. LOL
* CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE
* CPU Stepping: CCBBE CB 1020 FPWM
* CPU Frequency: 4000mhz
* CPU vCore: 1.4125 in bios On load 1.380-1.392(off set settings)
* CPU Multiplier: 16x
* CPU Turbo: Disabled/ Cool and quite on.
* CPU NB Speed: 3000mhz 1.3125 volts
* HT Ref Speed: 250 MHz
* RAM Speed: DDR3 - 2000mhz
* RAM Timings: 9-10-9-28
* RAM Configuration: 8gbs GB (2 x 4 GB)
* RAM vDIMM: 1.56V
* Motherboard: ASUS M4A89 TD Pro/USB3.0
* Chipset/Socket: AM3 890FX
* Cooling: Air Scythe Mugen 2 with TX3 paste
* Temps 28c idle/56C load (coretemp off set 15C)
* Operating system vista 64 bit SP2
HAVE NO FEAR!
"AMD fallen angel"
You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
Have a minor update. I'd like to get on the "stable" list :-)
* CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 95w
* CPU Stepping:
* CPU Frequency: 4004 MHz
* CPU vCore: 1.504V
* CPU Multiplier: 14x
* CPU Turbo: Disabled
* CPU NB Speed: 2860 MHz
* HT Ref Speed: 286 MHz
* RAM Speed: DDR3-1906
* RAM Timings: 9-11-11-30-2T
* RAM Configuration: 8 GB (2 x 4 GB)
* RAM vDIMM: 1.56V
* Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
* Chipset/Socket: AM3, 890GX + SB850
* Cooling: Air (Thermalright Archon)
* Temps: 22C Idle / 62C Load
* Operating System: Windows 7
* 32/64-Bit: 64
* Stable/Suicide/Untested: Stable
--Matt
My Rig :
Core i5 4570S - ASUS Z87I-DELUXE - 16GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 - 256GB Plextor M5 Pro Xtreme
CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE
CPU Stepping: ............
CPU Frequency: 4000 MHz
CPU vCore: 1.42v
CPU Multiplier: 20
CPU Turbo: Disabled
CPU NB Speed: 3000 MHz
HT ref Speed: 200
RAM Speed: DDR3-1600
RAM Timings: 8-9-8-24-1T
RAM Configuration: 4 GB (2 x 2 GB)
RAM vDIMM: 1.65V
Motherboard: Gigabyte 790XTA UD4
Chipset/Socket: AM3, 790X / SB750
Cooling: Ek Supreme HF
Temps: +/-15C Idle / 33C Load
Operating System: Windows 7
32/64-Bit: 64
Stable/Suicide/Untested:Stable 13H 48Min Prime95
Voltages:
CPU: 1,42
NB:1,12v
CPU/NB:1.35v
CPU PLL: 2.50v
HT:1,20v
RAM:1,65v
Last edited by >D4L70N<; 02-02-2011 at 03:43 AM.
Hope this is ok, I didn't see any other "suicide runs" posted here but the verbiage was in the last bullet point.
CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE
CPU Stepping: CCBBE CB 1014EPMW
CPU Frequency: 5016 MHz
CPU vCore: 1.62V
CPU Multiplier: 25x
CPU Turbo: Disabled
CPU NB Speed: 2000 MHz
HT Ref Speed: 200 MHz
RAM Speed: DDR3-1600
RAM Timings: 8-8-8-24-2T
RAM Configuration: 4 GB (2 x 2 GB)
RAM vDIMM: 1.65V
Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair IV Formula
Chipset/Socket: AM3, 890FX + SB850
Cooling: ss phase
Temps: -60C Idle / -57C Load
Operating System: Windows 7
32/64-Bit: 64
Stable/Suicide/Untested: Suicide
Asus Rampage IV Extreme (Cooled by EK)
3930k (still dialing it in) (Cooled by: summer time= HeatKiller / winter time= ss phase)
Samsung 30nm 32gig (still dialing it in)
2x GTX 590 Quad-SLI (Cooled by XSPC)
128GB Crucial SSD
1200w PCP&C
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
pH-EO
4228.39 MHz
1.624v
14X
Disabled
2114 MHz
302 MHz
DDR2-1006
5-5-5-13
4 GB (2 x 2 GB)
2.1V
MSI 790XT-G45
AM2+, 790X + SB710
Water - 1x - Swiftech 120mm Radiator, Enzotech SCW-REV.A, Quiet one 1200 Aquarium pump, Scythe Ultra Kaze 120
Temps: Coretemp - 21C Idle 29C Load - Overdrive 22C Idle - 40C Load
Windows 7
64
Untested (partially)
I could've gone higher but It would've required more voltage. Not bad for a 790XT AM2+ MOBO with a simple NB cooler and no VRM cooling (added some little copper dudes). Got another radiator coming in in two days, might decide to push a bit more if temps drop any. All fans are on low and case is open right now because of troubleshooting. 600W Rosewill PSU is pushing it as it is (smoked up the other day), so I don't want to stress it yet. Waiting on a new 1200W Mushkin, came in today and popped right off the bat w/ stock settings. I think I can probably suicide a 4400 on this thang but I think I'ma stick to 4.2. There is certainly still headroom although vcore is high already.
Last edited by madmanmarz; 02-09-2011 at 03:00 AM.
m5a97 evo, 8350 @ 4.625, 2250/2700
8gb ddr3 @ 1500 7-8-7 1t
momentus xt 750gb
r9 270 @ 1200/1500
antec 1100v2, custom loop cpu+gpu
d5, 200x45mm+240x30mm+120x60mm
Charts are up to date now.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Added a neat new core clock vs. vcore plot on the OP. It is automatically updated with the other charts.
Sample:
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
cool chart, now i wonder if anyone is going to try and be the first 4ghz stable with 1.4v or less
2500k @ 4900mhz - Asus Maxiums IV Gene Z - Swiftech Apogee LP
GTX 680 @ +170 (1267mhz) / +300 (3305mhz) - EK 680 FC EN/Acteal
Swiftech MCR320 Drive @ 1300rpms - 3x GT 1850s @ 1150rpms
XS Build Log for: My Latest Custom Case
Wow. There is none yet?
Can i enter with my deneb?
X2 555 @ B55 @ 4050 1.4v, NB @ 2700 1.35v Fuzion V1
Gigabyte 890gpa-ud3h v2.1
HD6950 2GB swiftech MCW60 @ 1000mhz, 1.168v 1515mhz memory
Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1866 cas 9 @ 1800 8.9.8.27.41 1T 110ns 1.605v
C300 64GB, 2X Seagate barracuda green LP 2TB, Essence STX, Zalman ZM750-HP
DDC 3.2/petras, PA120.3 ek-res400, Stackers STC-01,
Dell U2412m, G110, G9x, Razer Scarab
4GHz with less than 1.4V is really no problemThere are many chips which can do it.
Could be easily marked as stable @ close to that frequency if I want to. And that's the weaker chip :p
I'm sure it can do 4GHz full stable with vCore lower than 1.4V.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=625
Last edited by I.nfraR.ed; 02-09-2011 at 09:08 AM.
X6 1090T (1010MPMW) @ 4267MHz 1.44V NB@3229MHz 1.33V | Asus Crosshair IV Formula | 2x2GB Corsair Dominator GTX2 @ 1845MHz 6-6-5-17-22 1T | Asus HD4890 @ 1050/4800 | Corsair HX850W | HAF 932
EK Supreme HF | EK-FC4890LT | MCP655 + Koolance D5 Top | ThermoChill PA120.3 + 3x Enermax Magma | XSPC Bay res | Masterkleer 1/2" UV Red
mine sure cant,4GHz with less than 1.4V is really no problem
i just tested 4004mhz at 1.392v, instant error, at 1.404v errors after a few seconds.
its temps dont even go up before mine has an issue, so i know its not cooling related.
2500k @ 4900mhz - Asus Maxiums IV Gene Z - Swiftech Apogee LP
GTX 680 @ +170 (1267mhz) / +300 (3305mhz) - EK 680 FC EN/Acteal
Swiftech MCR320 Drive @ 1300rpms - 3x GT 1850s @ 1150rpms
XS Build Log for: My Latest Custom Case
My 1055 behaves similarly. I don't get much past the point where all of the cores jump up to 100% on the first pass of linpak at 4Ghz with anything less than ~1.45v.
--Matt
My Rig :
Core i5 4570S - ASUS Z87I-DELUXE - 16GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 - 256GB Plextor M5 Pro Xtreme
i looked at the charts and noticed MOST people need 1.45v for anything around 4ghz,
so i set mine to 1.476v and its been running 2 hours now at 4018mhz with the cores at 46c, and the cpu at 57c and no issues.
so i might bump up the clock later and try again. but right now im scared to look at the power draw. a decent OC is 200W load, the highest i pushed was 250W, this has to be more..
2500k @ 4900mhz - Asus Maxiums IV Gene Z - Swiftech Apogee LP
GTX 680 @ +170 (1267mhz) / +300 (3305mhz) - EK 680 FC EN/Acteal
Swiftech MCR320 Drive @ 1300rpms - 3x GT 1850s @ 1150rpms
XS Build Log for: My Latest Custom Case
Try 1.45?
X2 555 @ B55 @ 4050 1.4v, NB @ 2700 1.35v Fuzion V1
Gigabyte 890gpa-ud3h v2.1
HD6950 2GB swiftech MCW60 @ 1000mhz, 1.168v 1515mhz memory
Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1866 cas 9 @ 1800 8.9.8.27.41 1T 110ns 1.605v
C300 64GB, 2X Seagate barracuda green LP 2TB, Essence STX, Zalman ZM750-HP
DDC 3.2/petras, PA120.3 ek-res400, Stackers STC-01,
Dell U2412m, G110, G9x, Razer Scarab
200W load? I see 400W at the wall max under linpak with the video card idle! I see 110-115 at idle.
--Matt
My Rig :
Core i5 4570S - ASUS Z87I-DELUXE - 16GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 - 256GB Plextor M5 Pro Xtreme
YMMV!
My 1055t needs 1.5 set (droops to 1.488 load) for 4004 mhz. I thought it was stable with 1.475, but the 3d11 physics tests, of all things, required a bump.
*in progress*
AMD FX-8350
Asus Crosshair V Formula Z
2X8GB G.Skill Trident X DDR3-2400 C10
2X Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X
D5|EK Res/top|2X Swiftech MCR320XP|EK Supremacy CPU|2X EK 290X Acetal Nickel
Seasonic M12D 850w
Fractal Design Arc Midi R2
T-Balancer MiniNG
Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
My last intel cpu was a celeron 300a. My first computer was a TI-99/4!
it passed the 8 hour test, so i officially have 4ghz stable YAY, SS saved so ill have it all updated later tonight.
my idle power consumption is 70W from the wall
load is 180W with 2800mhz 1.3v
OCed using my proffered settings 3696mhz 1.336v its 200W and my turbo 4356mhz and 1.52v is 215W
and with 4ghz 1.476v it was 265W
i tried to find out if i can do 4.1ghz but at 1.488v it still wasnt happy, and i really dont care about having such a high clock anyway, its just too loud to keep it cool. i was thinking about doing a quick review of power consumption relative to performance across the whole range of voltages from 1v to 1.5v. but if i have the time for that, i should probably be working on other things, lol.
2500k @ 4900mhz - Asus Maxiums IV Gene Z - Swiftech Apogee LP
GTX 680 @ +170 (1267mhz) / +300 (3305mhz) - EK 680 FC EN/Acteal
Swiftech MCR320 Drive @ 1300rpms - 3x GT 1850s @ 1150rpms
XS Build Log for: My Latest Custom Case
I am officially claiming the highest ddr2 overclock.
m5a97 evo, 8350 @ 4.625, 2250/2700
8gb ddr3 @ 1500 7-8-7 1t
momentus xt 750gb
r9 270 @ 1200/1500
antec 1100v2, custom loop cpu+gpu
d5, 200x45mm+240x30mm+120x60mm
I think mine managed 6hr stability... I'd need to check... no idea where my post has gone with it <1.4v
[EDIT] Can't find the 4Ghz at 1.38v but I did find the ultra low voltage 4ghz run - benching stable but not prime stable XD
Asus CHIV for me Phenom II 1090T @ 4Ghz
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1441094
Oh and 1 quick run @ 4.2ghz
Not bad for stock cooling
Last edited by RCG_Bex; 02-15-2011 at 09:24 AM.
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