Here is the data sheet for the Vishay power phases used on X58 boards, seriously read my review http://www.vishay.com/docs/49993/vmn_pt01.pdf Read the number on top of the chips next to the chokes, they will read what this data sheet says.
Here is the data sheet for the Vishay power phases used on X58 boards, seriously read my review http://www.vishay.com/docs/49993/vmn_pt01.pdf Read the number on top of the chips next to the chokes, they will read what this data sheet says.
Last edited by sin0822; 12-20-2010 at 12:34 PM.
Guess I take your tone wrong man, but I'm done crapping on poor old Bill's thread. Prolly should have pm'd ya instead.Maybe a mod can move/delete these post to keep Bill's thread positive?
Its just the endless tech jargon put together in a somewhat incoherent fashion that is boggling:Originally Posted by chuchnit
Stuff like MOSFETs that refine voltage and reduce ripple -> that doesnt even make sense, that is a function of a capacitor
or 'Ripple controller'
i never ever said MOSFETs reduce ripple. I said yes they refine voltage from 12-5v to 1.1-1.9v.
I am not bought by anything, I have reviews over at TPU and I don't praise any company that I do not like.
FYI I used to buy ASUS boards, and I bought 2 ASUS X58 boards, I just liked Gigabyte later, I am not on their payroll, like other people I know who are on ASUS or EVGA payrol.
Last edited by sin0822; 12-20-2010 at 12:45 PM.
Well I may be older than some, younger than others, but there is still a fire burning in this old bill
Done..Guess I take your tone wrong man, but I'm done crapping on poor old Bill's thread. Prolly should have pm'd ya instead.
My 2 cents, Bill took some excellent pics and showed what he could to us.
What more can anyone ask of the guy?
Crunch with us, the XS WCG team
The XS WCG team needs your support.
A good project with good goals.
Come join us,get that warm fuzzy feeling that you've done something good for mankind.
i think he did a great job, and went through all that effort of uploading Gigabyte's slides!
You are only as old as you think you are.Well I may be older than some, younger than others, but there is still a fire burning in this old bill
Umm can we ask him to post up some results when NDA is lifted?
Yes he did and it was nice to see the info.i think he did a great job, and went through all that effort of uploading Gigabyte's slides!
Thats what we're here for, to learn.
Asus, MSI and anyone else is welcome to do the same.
In their own thread of course..
Of course we can. Would love to myself and I don't have the GB board..You are only as old as you think you are.
Umm can we ask him to post up some results when NDA is lifted?
Wish I did but they don't love me I guess..
Last edited by Movieman; 12-20-2010 at 01:30 PM.
Crunch with us, the XS WCG team
The XS WCG team needs your support.
A good project with good goals.
Come join us,get that warm fuzzy feeling that you've done something good for mankind.
I have media slides for all the other boards also, but I figured I would give the others a chance to post theres up if they wanted.
I would have to sort through a lot of slides to find the things that are different for each board as much of it is the same.
thanks for the slide buck!
Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?
Thank you for such an in depth review / preview of this motherboard along with the excellent photos. Great job! I think this will be my next mobo...either this one or the UD5 but I suspect I won't be able to get the UD5 for under $200! Any rumors on price USD?
Core i5 2500K @ 4.8GHz 1.31v [L041C123] | Gigabyte P67-UD3P-B3 | Corsair H60 | 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-1866 8-9-8-24-1T | Samsung F3 1TB |
ASUS GTX 670 2GB| PCP&C Silencer 500W | Antec Three Hundred "Blacked Out" | Dell Ultrasharp 23" U2311H IPS 1920x1080
Google Gigabyte P67 UD5 and one of the first in the list has it in stock for$231.00
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Right; though I doubt that's the price we'll see on Newegg once they are officially released. (I hope anyway!) I don't need one right this second
Core i5 2500K @ 4.8GHz 1.31v [L041C123] | Gigabyte P67-UD3P-B3 | Corsair H60 | 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-1866 8-9-8-24-1T | Samsung F3 1TB |
ASUS GTX 670 2GB| PCP&C Silencer 500W | Antec Three Hundred "Blacked Out" | Dell Ultrasharp 23" U2311H IPS 1920x1080
I'm hoping these are early, inflated prices too. My wallet is empty enough as it is now.Right; though I doubt that's the price we'll see on Newegg once they are officially released. (I hope anyway!) I don't need one right this second
I hear ya ^^ I'm hoping UD4 will be around $160!
Core i5 2500K @ 4.8GHz 1.31v [L041C123] | Gigabyte P67-UD3P-B3 | Corsair H60 | 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-1866 8-9-8-24-1T | Samsung F3 1TB |
ASUS GTX 670 2GB| PCP&C Silencer 500W | Antec Three Hundred "Blacked Out" | Dell Ultrasharp 23" U2311H IPS 1920x1080
first price in italy 167€
UD7 should cost more then UD5 by a nice margin bc of the NF200.
Damn, quite pricy... Should go down in price in January, though.
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$341 UD7 - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=111128...cture=Gigabyte
$270 UD5 - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=111128...cture=Gigabyte
$317 UD4?? - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=111128...cture=Gigabyte
$138 - UD3 - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=111128...cture=Gigabyte
No idea if these are the retail prices but this is what you find on their site as of today.
Thermalright Venemous-X
I7 2600K
P67-UD7
G.SKILL PI 2 x 2GB 2133 (F3-17066CL7D-4GBPIS)
2xHIS 6950
Intel X-25M 160GB SSD
3x640GB WD Black Raid 0
2x1TB WD Green
Seasonic 750w
Corsair 800D
WTF.....
in italy:
ud7 299€
ud5 250€
ud4 160€
Can't be correct, maybe just place holders.
They have the UD4 costing more than a UD5 by $47
Gigabyte P67A-UD4 Testing
The board that I had a chance to test and run through its paces from the new line of motherboards from Gigabyte was the P67A-UD4. this motherboard has a nice amount of features and a very good motherboard for overclocking.
As usual for a Gigabyte board when you open the box you find a very nice, well done and package with everything you need.
These new black PCB motherboards look very, very nice !
You can find the full released spec's over at Gigabytes website located here.
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3648#ov
The CPU I had to test this with was the 2500K which has 4 cores and no hyper threading.
My very first impressions of overclocking this setup was it had great headroom on clocks with low power usage and the ability to do all this with a good after market air cooler. I used a Prolimatech Mega Shadow with one fan for all my tests.
To begin my testing my goal was to find what my max stable overclock would be, something I could throw everything at and not cause issues.
So lets start off by taking a look at the BIOS screens to see what we have to work with.
I started out with finding my max overclock which when I first started was 4.8ghz, but with a later BIOS update that was increased to 5.4ghz. I then started working that to find stability issues and ended up at a 5.1ghz overclock. This was set in the BIOS at x51 multi and 100 bclck.
CPUz does not show these numbers correctly at this time for some reason.
As we look around we see what different CPU's are clocking at and with what vcores the 2500K that I had seemed to like vcore more than what I see others are using.
RAM speed and timings seemed to be another issue for me. This might have been the kit I using that just did not want to play nice at high speeds on this board but I am sure that with updated BIOS this will be better. The kit I used really did not want to run stable at higher than 1600mhz. I could boot into windows at 1867mhz & 2134mhz and do different things, but some benches would freeze or crash so I went with what was 100% stable for me which was 1600mhz. I could do things like change command rate to 2T and it would be more stable, but the effect of that on benches was rather bad so I tried to find what worked best here and 1600mhz and 1T was it for me.
Another issue I had was mounting heat sinks. The Mega Shadow mounted fine, but the Corsair H70 I have just doesn't line up with the mounting holes and the back plate at all. I am not sure why as it appears that it uses the same pattern as the P55 socket. It's possible that it's my back plate for the H70, I don't know. I did mount the H70 with out the back plate and temps were a little better than the Mega Shadow.
My setup was as follows:
CPU: 2500K
Gigabyte P67a-UD4
Memory: Corsair 2x 2gig sticks, 2000mhz 8-8-8-24 CMG6GX3M3A2000C8
32GB MTRON PRO SSD
Prolimatech Mega Shadow with one fan
Graphics Card: 280gtx
OS: Win 7 64bit stock install
As you can see by my Graphics Card I am some what limited in GPU testing with games and benches. But you know it still does perform pretty well for a older GPU. It's pretty hard for me to keep up with all the latest graphics cards so I tend to be some what behind in those
Finding my max stable OC with these settings.
CPU: x51 multi & 100 bclck
vcore: was 1.600 which is a some what higher than others, but my CPU seemed to like this so all was good.
Lets start off with CPU benches.
Increased RAM speed would help these benches.
I could have run each bench at what ever max speed/RAM setting I could find for each one, but did all on one setting/screen to show stability.
Lets move on to 3DMark Vantage
In all tests that would use Graphics I did overclock the 280gtx to core speed of 725mhz and memory speed of 1200mhz
Cinebench
CrystalMark
Fritz Chess
Nuclearus Multi Core
Performance Test
TMPGEnc Video Encode Test
This used a Rage_Fileshack_Quakecon2007 test file which had a file size of 454,111KB.
Encode time was 1 minute 52 seconds
Well so much for the boring tests LOL
Some of those I included because I have seen others using those benches so I thought I would do the same so you could compare.
How about some game results
I ran the FFXIV bench at both high and low settings. Again this is using the 280gtx so better graphics cards would result in better scores.
The low rez score
And high rez score
Civilization 5
Civ 5 has two different short cuts for starting the game.
One is Civilization 5
Second is Civilization 5 DX11
I do not have a DX11 graphics card at this time, but I ran it both ways.
This is one of my favorite games atm and I usually run it with the DX11 short cut because it does seem to make it look better. The 280gtx handles this game pretty well also.
There is a benchmark for this game but it dumps results into a text file.
Here are my results:
For the regular Civ 5 short cut I get this result
[72230.359] LateGame Full Render Score , 2304, NumDrawCallsPerFrame ,10449
[72230.359] LateGame NoShadow Render Score , 3515, NumDrawCallsPerFrame ,6080
[72230.359] LateGame No Render Score , 19991, NumDrawCallsPerFrame ,0
For the DX11 short cut I get this
[71897.609] LateGame Full Render Score , 976, NumDrawCallsPerFrame ,0
[71897.609] LateGame NoShadow Render Score , 1294, NumDrawCallsPerFrame ,0
[71897.609] LateGame No Render Score , 10149, NumDrawCallsPerFrame ,0
The next benches I ran are more real world stuff which had some very good results.
Cyclone xTreme II Chess Benchmark
Ed Trice's Checkers bench is a single threaded app that really likes pure speed. This one was a very nice surprise and it was the very first setup to break the 3 hour mark. I have run this bench many times with other setups which included extreme cooling like SS Phase and Cascade. Here we have a $75 air cooler and CPU breaking records compared to the other extreme setups. Very nice !
Other results are:
1 Buckeye Intel Core i5-2500K @ 5.1ghz 02:57:05
2 rickss69 Intel Xeon W3580 @ 4.95 GHz 03:12:40
3 rickss69 Intel Xeon W3580 @ 4.91 GHz 03:14:53
4 rickss69 Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield @ 4.60 GHz 03:26:05
5 rickss69 Intel Core 2 Duo e8600 @ 4.85 GHz 03:30:25
6 rickss69 Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield @ 4.50 GHz 03:31:45
7 Kriztoffer Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield @ 4.39 GHz 03:33:44
8 rickss69 Intel Dual-Core i5-670 Clarkdale @ 4.72 GHz 03:34:47
9 Buckeye Intel Quad-Core i7 870 Lynnfield @ 4.62 GHz 03:35:59
10 Buckeye Intel Core i7-975 Extreme @ 4.32 GHz 03:43:18 Premiere
11 Wei Yang Intel Core i7-870 @ 4.44 GHz 03:45:17
12 Buckeye Intel Core i7-870 @ 4.43 GHz 03:46:00
13 Buckeye AMD 965BE C3 Deneb @ 5.00 GHz 03:46:23
14 Buckeye Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield @ 4.0 GHz 03:47:16 Mini i7
15 Buckeye AMD X6 1055T Phenom II @ 4.0 GHz 03:51:02 Mini AMD
Another program that is used is Matlab
This program does very heavy duty math related calculations that can take huge amounts of time. It can also generate graphic results so better graphics cards will generate a much better result.
As you can see by looking at the bar graph that this setup performs pretty darn well. In the professional world where time is money this setup can be a real time/money saver.
I have a USB3.0 Buffalo 1TB drive here that I ran through CrystalDiskMark with these results.
This is with the new Turbo USB 3.0 turned on
GIGABYTE On/Off Charge technology
http://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/185/on-off-charge.htm
This also worked just fine with my Sprint Samsung Epic 4G phone. It charged while the computer was completely turned off.
GIGABYTE Cloud OC:
GIGABYTE Cloud OC is a free overclocking application that facilitates PC overclocking through any web browsing capable device.
http://www.gigabyte.com/microsite/208/cloud-oc.html
This also worked pretty well. After you install the app you will see this screen.
In the center box you will see a URL to type into the control machine and then get a web page that has OC controls. It actually works very well. I run several headless servers here at home and use RADMIN to remote into these. With Cloud OC installed I can also change overclocks on these machines.
Turbo functions:
I have also read a great deal about the Turbo functions that this platform provides. There is a large number of settings in the BIOS that allows you to adjust Turbo features. This can be very useful to those who want to run a greener system with all the energy saving features turned on.
Normally when us extreme people overclock we turn all these things off so we run at max speed and not have benches be effected by Turbo kicking in and out.
When I setup the BIOS for my tests I also turned off all these features so it should be running at 5.1ghz on the desktop at all times.
I used Tmonitor to check this and found strange results
Tmon is set to show Multiplier changes. I would have expected to see a flat response with Turbo disabled in the BIOS, but instead I see the multi changing as I ran wPrime.
I tested this also on my main rig which is a 975e @ 3.7ghz which also has all these features turned off and see the same thing happening.
So I am not sure if Tmon is reporting things correctly.
Power Usage:
I ran some power usage tests to see how the system performed with that. These tests are the total power usage.
Lets take a look at stock settings with Turbo turned on.
Here we see ~85watts at idle sitting on the desktop.
This had a clock speed of 1.6ghz, mutli set at x16
I then fired up wPrime with 1 thread and you can see the power usage go up to ~110watts, multi jumped to 3.5ghz, a multi of x35.
This is the results of the 3DMark Vantage run @ 5.1ghz.
Idle power is ~138watts with a max power usage of close to 300watts
I had this system crunching for many days in a row and it went with out a hitch. I will have to look at how many points this system cranks out.
You can see that this system at 5.1ghz uses ~225watts for crunching. I would think a person setting a rig up just for crunching would not use a 280gtx but rather something that would use less power. So I would expect that total system power would be lowered with a different GPU.
I did setup this system on my SS Phase unit which ran at ~-40c and saw no real improvement on overclocking abilities, in fact it might have made it worse. So with extreme cooling out of the picture, for now and I do expect that later some one will figure out the tricks or tools needed to give these systems a boost in OC ability with extreme cold. But for now it servers no boost to performance.
To summarize:
This platform is a very good and solid, plus it can serve a wide range of needs, from crunching to gaming and professional needs.
Overclocking is not dead with Sandy Bridge, it's just different, perhaps easier which I feel is a good thing as it will bring more people into the overclocking hobby. It is not just a simple button push to get high speeds, it does take a bit of tuning to find the sweet spots.
Equip your motherboard with a good 3rd party air cooler or water cooler like the Corsair H50 & H70 and you are good to go. I never saw my temps go higher than the low 60c's and in this range these cooling methods hold up very well.
The quality of these new Gigabyte boards is what we have come to expect from Gigabyte, that is very good solid boards with lots of features. The BIOS layout is also something that we have come to know very well as it's pretty much just like all Gigabyte BIOS's with easy to navigate and understand layouts.
Thanks for reading
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