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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    Knowing about it is good, and complaining about it is I feel warranted. People here are acting like AMD murdered their first born though. The response is simply not proportional. The "outrage" is over such a tiny matter that bears no impact on anyone or anything.
    "Tiny matter that bears no impact on anyone", who are you kidding? Some people here got screwed out of a month playing their favourite game at 100 frames per second, instead of the 90 they're getting now. That's a damn crime.

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    Bunch of kids thinking they are smart at they own jub, and did it all wrong and that expirience cost amd lets say 200k dolars? or more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone8ty View Post
    looks like they buffed off a few shaders to
    Haha, you mean each and single 6970 card is nerfed from 1920sp to 1536sp by manually sawing a part of the die off?
    Sounds more like Nvidia GTX480 story!
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    Quote Originally Posted by freeloader View Post
    "Tiny matter that bears no impact on anyone", who are you kidding? Some people here got screwed out of a month playing their favourite game at 100 frames per second, instead of the 90 they're getting now. That's a damn crime.

    LOL...
    I actually hadn't thought of it that way. I'm not immediately sure how I feel about that angle. Let me think about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Haha, you mean each and single 6970 card is nerfed from 1920sp to 1536sp by manually sawing a part of the die off?
    Sounds more like Nvidia GTX480 story!
    amd taped out both 1920sp and 1536sp. they probably found 1920sp too hot like fermi so they went for 1536sp and saved the crown for dual core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper_sung View Post
    amd taped out both 1920sp and 1536sp. they probably found 1920sp too hot like fermi so they went for 1536sp and saved the crown for dual core.
    Or they only planned 1920sp part for 32nm, thus it's never been taped out. You never know, unless you work at AMD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaktus1907 View Post
    it looks like a "hotfix" lol
    rofl

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    Woodscrew stories are nothing compared to that.
    That's customer's cards we are talking about.

    Don't know if it's the real cause of the delay but that's crazy to see that kind of mistake. AMD puts on his shoes before his pants on this one

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    looks like someone at AMD doesn't know how to use a ruler...

    they didn't even notice the problem in solidworks? oh wait, solidworks uses cuda, nvmd...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 570091D View Post
    looks like someone at AMD doesn't know how to use a ruler...

    they didn't even notice the problem in solidworks? oh wait, solidworks uses cuda, nvmd...
    Yeah, I'm sure that because solidworks can utilize cuda AMD engineers are relegated to measuring and drawing everything by hand.



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    Quote Originally Posted by XSAlliN View Post
    What!? - you mean, you buy a card for what it can do, not for how it looks? You're weird man! Performance is one thing - but usually in this price range the card esthetics is just as important, if not more...

    To bad they're not gold plated - not so shiny!!! SHHHHINYY!!
    If they were made of gold i'd have filed them all down myself.

    (And kept the shavings as payment).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solus Corvus View Post
    Yeah, I'm sure that because solidworks can utilize cuda AMD engineers are relegated to measuring and drawing everything by hand.


    Even the thought of it is flipping hilarious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    Woodscrew stories are nothing compared to that.
    That's customer's cards we are talking about.

    Don't know if it's the real cause of the delay but that's crazy to see that kind of mistake. AMD puts on his shoes before his pants on this one
    What? nVidia lying to customers and partners about having a real card when all they got is a fake is nothing compared to a changed cooler being at most 2mm to long or wide?

    Lies and faked card is a bit worse than modifying a connector by hand. It doesn't affect function or reliability.

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    im suprised noone has mentioned yet but here is the AMD's response..

    The modification to the power connector seen on some Radeon HD 6900 series cards was a conscious development decision. The reference boards use both fan and heatsink designs from multiple vendors and it was discovered some material produced on initial designs required adjustment. As a result we modified the PCIe power connector for a very small number of boards using affected components, which were mostly used for samples, as the most time and cost efficient solution to bringing the product to market in volume. This minor modification to the connector in no way affects the operation of the card and our partners have designed solutions which do not require this modification.

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    As a result we modified the PCIe power connector for a very small number of boards using affected components, which were mostly used for samples
    Means most retail cards won't even have this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Means most retail cards won't even have this.
    Here in France, first HD 6970's owners got the PCIe connector modded.

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    In Germany too, here are some pictures with a friend's retail card...
    It was interfering with fan's blades.




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    arent cards going into some sort of industrial hoven to solder the joints or whatever and too much heat shaved the corners or whatever???


    am i the only one seeing this possibility????


    and did it hinder the performance of the cards ... so why complain people ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n View Post
    so why complain people ...
    Because it's an huge fail, simply ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    Because it's an huge fail, simply ...

    did you read anything else .. or you just bothered to scream fail ....
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    Is there the same problem with the 6950 ?

    Which brand have this crude modification : only sapphire or not ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    Because it's an huge fail, simply ...
    A huge fail is when the fault is found by the customer and there needs to be a recall or remedial action. This one looks like in was found in house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Means most retail cards won't even have this.
    That's not true. A guy here in Portugal bought two 6950 and both had the 'modded' connector.
    Last edited by RSC; 12-17-2010 at 10:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n View Post
    did you read anything else .. or you just bothered to scream fail ....
    You didn't see xdan's post ?

    Without the modification, the fan wouldn't turn because it would be in contact with the plug.

    You see ?

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