AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[nascasho]

Isnt it the other way around?
Wood into the fire?

Probably some Russian meets Japan thing.

In Russia 6970 overclocks you!

[Gorguls]

Deja Vu to the 4870 launch this. Looks like AMD have got another winner on their hands. Low price, lower power draw, high performance, low noise. I take it Nvidia will be offering refunds before friday again?

GTX 570 Same Performance as 6970 with lower TDP.

[zalbard]

Probably some Russian meets Japan thing.

In Russia 6970 overclocks you!

Considering how much heat some people put out around the whole 6970 vs 580 debate, it could be partially true!

[zerazax]

GTX 570 Same Performance as 6970 with lower TDP.

Nvidia TDP != AMD TDP

AMD TDP is total power draw of entire card. Nvidia is not.

[Gorguls]

Nvidia TDP != AMD TDP

AMD TDP is total power draw of entire card. Nvidia is not.

You will see in the Tests.

[Stukov]

Nvidia TDP != AMD TDP

AMD TDP is total power draw of entire card. Nvidia is not.

The thermal design power (TDP), sometimes called thermal design point, represents the maximum amount of power the cooling system in a computer is required to dissipate. For example, a laptop's CPU cooling system may be designed for a 20 watt TDP, which means that it can dissipate up to 20 watts of heat without exceeding the maximum junction temperature for the computer chip.

Power draw and TDP are different things.

[Kristers Bensin]

Nvidia TDP != AMD TDP

AMD TDP is total power draw of entire card. Nvidia is not.

ill add this: AMD TDP = maximum power draw, Nvidia TDP = typical gaming power. GTX 570s maximum power draw is ~290W and 6970s maximum power draw is ~250W

EDIT: above comment is correct about the meaning behind "TDP", my comment is more about maximum power draw :P

[Motiv]

GTX 570 Same Performance as 6970 with lower TDP.

Well the tests done already, are not showing that. Perhaps you have a link to ones which do show the 570 and 6970 having the same performance.

[Dimitriman]

AMD Radeon HD 6970 Review

ok I got rickrolled there...

[Johnny87au]

@cold2010 i hope its alot better then those ss's u posted, otherwise my heart will be crushed

[Gorguls]

ill add this: AMD TDP = maximum power draw, Nvidia TDP = typical gaming power. GTX 570s maximum power draw is ~290W and 6970s maximum power draw is ~250W

Wrong the GTX570 only is equipt for 225W(2x6Pin) the 6970 vor 300W(6 and 8Pin) and is limited by powertune @250.

[Oliverda]

ill add this: AMD TDP = maximum power draw, Nvidia TDP = typical gaming power. GTX 570s maximum power draw is ~290W and 6970s maximum power draw is ~250W

The 6900 cards will have a TGP as well.

[Gorguls]

Well the tests done already, are not showing that. Perhaps you have a link to ones which do show the 570 and 6970 having the same performance.

http://www.coolpc.com.tw/phpBB2/view...276669#p276669

[zalbard]

6950 and 6970 look absolutely identical, except for the power connector...
Wonder if 6850 can be flashed (unlocked) as 6970...

[Dimitriman]

http://www.coolpc.com.tw/phpBB2/view...276669#p276669

hah lost planet 2 and synthetics... now now why o why would they only chose those benchmarks?

[Kristers Bensin]

Wrong the GTX570 only is equipt for 225W(2x6Pin) the 6970 vor 300W(6 and 8Pin) and is limited by powertune @250.

But still it pulls a rough 298W during furmark.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...TX_570/25.html

The 6900 cards will have a TGP as well.

GTX 570s TGP is between 166-190W, we'll have to wait till tomorrow for 6970s real TGP

[Solus Corvus]

CPU bottleneck in Crysis at 1920x1200 8xAA? The shape of the graphs don't show any of the typical signs. It's more likely the driver not enforcing AA settings.

Have you forget that is just the AVG FPS, what about min/max. Probably MIN FSP is lower at 8AA than 2AA or 4AA.

For the average to stay the same while the minimum decreases, the max (or at least the part above average) would have to increase. That would be extremely odd behavior indeed.

I doubt it is a cpu bottleneck because typically in those conditions the more stressful results have a greater differential score between cards (ie. the graphs flatten out as you go down in AA/resolution). These results are exactly the same between the settings. Also, the ATI cards don't appear to be affected. That's not normal cpu limited behavior.

What's more likely, some odd behavior that somehow makes the scores between settings exactly the same without affecting the ATI cards, or just a bad beta driver that doesn't set AA level properly in this game?

[WintersSC]

6950 and 6970 look absolutely identical, except for the power connector...
Wonder if 6850 can be flashed (unlocked) as 6970...

Dont think so, the chip may be different.

[kaktus1907]

HD6950/6970 review

http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part1.shtml
http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part2.shtml
http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part3.shtml

Google Translate Link

[hurrdurr]

The chip is definitely the same chip, only some parts fused, amirite?

[Kristers Bensin]

HD6950/6970 review

http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part1.shtml
http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part2.shtml
http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part3.shtml

Google Translate Link

6970 The recommended price for the U.S. market $ 369

6950 The recommended price for the U.S. market of $ 299

Thats good right?

[zalbard]

HD6950/6970 review

http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part1.shtml
http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part2.shtml
http://www.ixbt.com/video3/cayman-part3.shtml

Google Translate Link

Sweet! Cheers!
Can help translating if some things are unclear, btw.

[_d_]

hi guy..
fud again: http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/ite...-cost-275-euro

[Johnny87au]

news news guys,!! told u 6970 will beat the 580 yewww...
prepare a couple cups of tea for nvidia please...!!!

(before)


(after)


VS 580


info for max clocks, not in par with results ^^...

HIS 6950 stable at 930Mhz Core and 5950MHz Memory.

HIS 6970 stable at 980MHz Core and 6200MHz Memory.

^^at stock voltage..., Thats with driver 8.851, beats the 580 there

[kaktus1907]

HUGE



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