AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[zerazax]

I don't think the drivers will be that big an improvement - not yet at least, there's definitely room for improvements. Look at 5870 before and after.. big difference

But so much of the bad news wasn't looked at in context... when compared to the 5970, the 6970 is quite close..

[Hicksetto]

@Ducati750ss stated his benchmarks:

GTX 480 / HD6970

RE5
101 / 109

F1 2010
56 / 68

3DMark11X
X1650 / X1798

3DMark11P
P5017 / P4939

Heaven2.1
687 / 644

[FischOderAal]

The load on the GPU is at 99 percent during the benchmarks.

Auslastung der GPU liegt bei 99% bei den Grafikbenches.

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...3-post809.html

[Sn0wm@n]

now lets wait for pricing ... and news on antilles

[kite7]

now lets wait for pricing ... and news on antilles

Didn't someone from some uk forum say that they will be priced like the HD5800 somewhere in this thread? If the HD6970 is going to be $399 then I'd like to see how nvidia will respond to that. Remember what happened when HD4800 series came out and surprised nvidia with the pricing? Bam, price drop nvidia and everyone wins. We can only hope it'll be like that again

[informal]

According to latest techpowerup performance summary here, Cayman XT needs to be around ~25% faster than Cypress,on average,in each resolution,in order to match 580GTX. That's just 25% folks,it's very doable.

[Olivon]

According to latest techpowerup performance summary here, Cayman XT needs to be around ~25% faster than Cypress,on average,in each resolution,in order to match 580GTX. That's just 25% folks,it's very doable.

That's more 35-40% informal

[Hicksetto]

[zerazax]

Just for reference w/ a 5970:

5970 / 6970

3DMark11X
X2510 / X1798

3DMark11P
P6906 / P4939

Heaven 2.1
671/644

And for ComputeMark, 1920x1080 Extreme, 6970 vs. 5870: 454 vs. 238

If those 3dMark scores ain't proof that they're very shader biased...

[informal]

That's more 35-40% informal

Um ,no.
all resolutions :
5870 90
580 112 => 112/90=1.25x

1024x768:
5870 87
580 104 => 104/87=1.19x

1280x1024
5870 89
580 111 => 111/89=1.24x

1680x1050
5870 89
580 113=> 113/89=1.27x

1920x1200
5870 91
580 115=> 115/91=1.26x

2560x1600
5870 92
580 116 => 116/92=1.26x

As I've written,25% is very doable in games . End users could care less for Synthetic benchmarks.
In the end,we get smaller chip that performs on par with 40% larger chip,while costing the same or less.

[Sn0wm@n]

Didn't someone from some uk forum say that they will be priced like the HD5800 somewhere in this thread? If the HD6970 is going to be $399 then I'd like to see how nvidia will respond to that. Remember what happened when HD4800 series came out and surprised nvidia with the pricing? Bam, price drop nvidia and everyone wins. We can only hope it'll be like that again

i meant local e-tailer pricing .. newegg.ca ncix etc...

[Hicksetto]

From @Ducati750ss:

Vantage High

GTX 480 = H13354

HD6970 = H14743

[zerazax]

From @Ducati750ss:

Vantage High

GTX 480 = H13354

HD6970 = H14743

Get him to do P and Xtreme

Seeing the 5870 get quite a boost in 3dMark Vantage over its life from drivers, 6970 could end up a lot higher than people think

[kite7]

Seeing the 5870 get quite a boost in 3dMark Vantage over its life from drivers, 6970 could end up a lot higher than people think

Probable indeed, HD5870 gained almost 3000 marks from the day it was launched to now but really in the end all I'm concerned about is in-game performance

[hurrdurr]

bottom line is, 6970 is slightly slower than GTX 580

[waway625]

Just a quick comparison with RE5 benchmark. I dont know how much advantage the i7 950 gives though

[waway625]

RE5 variable benchmark 8xaa

[Florinmocanu]

RE5 likes I7 more than Thubans, but it seems they are about on par (GTX 570/6970).

[eric66]

Well it looks better in games must admit it but still expected more

[kite7]

RE5 likes I7 more than Thubans, but it seems they are about on par (GTX 570/6970).

RE5 favors i7 heavily. Phenom II X4 and X6 perform the same on RE5, those additional 2 cores don't help.

From here , it can be seen i7 performs a lot faster than Phenom cpus at RE5
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=22167&all=1

[Hicksetto]

According to @Ducati750ss, these are today's last benches from him:

Bad Company 2:

GTX 480 = min 42 , max 124 , avg 77,0

HD6970 = min 25 , max 130 , avg 70.4

[eric66]

lol that last one puts 6970 behind 5870 i think hope its some kinda joke or something it took amd 1 year to release this thing ? wow

[Gaul]

RE5 same setting

6850 def



6850 @ 1025/1150

[eric66]

'Don't get your panties in a twist folks.

We'll get real numbers on launch. Any leaks currently is meaningless as its running on drivers not even meant for Cayman. Unless someone actually has hold of the official launch drivers, cayman is running crippled in everything.

So far the only leak with un-crippled bios 6970 with 1920sp on gpu-z has it performing > gtx580. But the guy wouldn't reveal anything else.'

hope its true ...

[xdan]

Get him to do P and Xtreme

Seeing the 5870 get quite a boost in 3dMark Vantage over its life from drivers, 6970 could end up a lot higher than people think

Here is the performance score...

Under the GTX 570 score....