Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
GTX580 is a very minor refresh... No reason for it not to come out 6 months after GTX480. Just activate a few more shaders, sort out the TDP with a limiter chip, and do very minor performance tweaks = voila!
GF110 = GF110b... a'la GT200 -> GT200b

Both lowered power draw, heat, improved yields (at least w/ GF110 we see it improved functional units)

I don't think it surprised AMD as much as people think though - after all, a 512SP Fermi was due last year. The timing might have surprised AMD a bit, but I don't think the overall card + performance did as much.

Again though, we don't have any gaming #'s yet - the Unigine benchmark for 6970 is below the 570 and 580, but it is VERY close to the 5970 - and we know the 5970 performs in game much better than the 570 and just above the 580. So what does that tell us about the 6970? TBA


Quote Originally Posted by Dimitriman View Post
and apparently thats all it took to ruin amds one year project cayman.
Stop being so emotional.

How did it ruin it? Do you have concrete evidence Cayman's gaming performance is going to be like its 3dMark results? Where are you getting this conclusion? Seriously?