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    well since nobody wants to bench here is one from tpu
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    So for the last 3 months Nvidia talked about Uniengine and then Uniengine and more Uniengine and finally Uniengine. And then takes the best 5 seconds from all the benchmark run, makes a graph and then proudly shows it everywhere.

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    It is Crysis (v 1.21), not warhead, unless he ran warhead and I'm just having a long day and missed that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by -=DVS=- View Post
    F1 2010 is only one game and difference is small for all top cards , in other game 5870 lacks way behind fermi series , look at Lost Planet 2, its twice as slow.
    Maybe 6970 fixes that unbalance need more benchmarks.
    you should use Hawx2 and see the 215% gain have the GTX480 over a 5870 2gb in this benchmark/game ( developped with and by by Nvidia )

    Even a GT430 is faster of the 5870 in this game ..

    Lost Planet 2 ( like the one ) have been developped in collaboration ( complete collaboration ) with Nvidia, the DX11 part have been completely ( i say completely and this is not a joke ) designed by Nvidia,

    forget to see any other cards who are not Nividia to shine in this game .
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    3dmark11 with another driver (the one from the 07.12.):
    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/136857

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    note today's date in US style: 12/11/10 - mystery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=DVS=- View Post
    F1 2010 is only one game and difference is small for all top cards , in other game 5870 lacks way behind fermi series , look at Lost Planet 2, its twice as slow.
    Maybe 6970 fixes that unbalance need more benchmarks.
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    we need more in game benchs not vantage cr_p whatever gonna wait until official reviews
    Quote Originally Posted by LesGrossman View Post
    So for the last 3 months Nvidia talked about Uniengine and then Uniengine and more Uniengine and finally Uniengine. And then takes the best 5 seconds from all the benchmark run, makes a graph and then proudly shows it everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric66 View Post
    we need more in game benchs not vantage cr_p whatever gonna wait until official reviews
    Agreed. It appears to be not representative of real gaming

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    If AMD is releasing something 10% faster than a 5870 that is complete facking fail no matter how you spin it. The only thing that makes those scores acceptable is if they were for 6950. But seems like not. Now that begs the question, what is the point of a 6950 if its barely above a 6870?
    Can we still be looking at fake scores even at this point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitriman View Post
    If AMD is releasing something 10% faster than a 5870 that is complete facking fail no matter how you spin it. The only thing that makes those scores acceptable is if they were for 6950. But seems like not. Now that begs the question, what is the point of a 6950 if its barely above a 6870?
    Can we still be looking at fake scores even at this point?
    wtf happened AMD?
    3dmark != gaming

    Disappointing if you're a bencher. But could be great for a gamer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitriman View Post
    If AMD is releasing something 10% faster than a 5870 that is complete facking fail no matter how you spin it. The only thing that makes those scores acceptable is if they were for 6950. But seems like not. Now that begs the question, what is the point of a 6950 if its barely above a 6870?
    Can we still be looking at fake scores even at this point?
    wtf happened AMD?
    Its AMD's "Lets be secret and keep people's interest" PR backfiring. All sorts of crap has been thrown at them now lol. from Antillies .. human sacrifice hype to defending a possible fake or a irrelevant score
    lol
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    Vantage numbers look unreal.but yea...a synthetic benchmark is not that important
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    Quote Originally Posted by zerazax View Post
    3dmark != gaming

    Disappointing if you're a bencher. But could be great for a gamer
    I dont know man this story is turning flipside very quickly. First Amd was keeping secret cause performance was really high now its the opposite, seems like Amd is hiding a mediocre product at best. And lets face it if the rumors hold true for the 1536 shaders, its going to be a huge letdown. The truth about the 4d is that one smd cluster is 90% the performance with 10% less die space. So although you got 20% more shaders they perform 90% as good so in reality 1536 shaders will be only 18% more efficient than 1600.

    Its just not enough even with the other changes and this lets me down big time. Unless they manage 100% more shaders at 28nm then kepler with 700+ cuda will rape southern islands.
    of course there is antiles but how many people will afford that and how much better is it gonna be than 580? from these scores it will be at best 15%.
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    Someone said that the guy is getting these low scores because Power Tune(a new feature of 69xx series) is not working properly with the drivers he is using. It would be interesting to check the GPU load to make sure that the core is working 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noki View Post
    Someone said that the guy is getting these low scores because Power Tune(a new feature of 69xx series) is not working properly with the drivers he is using. It would be interesting to check the GPU load to make sure that the core is working 100%.
    If you dont know how powerTune works, you can assume nothing based on gpu @ 100%.

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    Hmm, better than GTX 480, still well under GTX 580, probably on pair with GTX 570 at least on Vantage.
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    unless he had wrong driver or something it looks to be about the same as a gtx570
    if priced the same or a little lower should do ok
    but at 450 forget it

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    Man... i don't think i've ever used my keyboard's F5 key as much as i've used today

    Only reviewers, retailers, members of the illuminati, and God himself; know the real performance of the 6900 series

    Jokes aside, 570 will still beat that score i reckon, considering it has a performance bump over the 480 in vantage.

    But really, take a look at this post from OCUK staff:

    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...5&postcount=69

    At those prices, something must be horribly wrong with these benchmarks, either that or those prices are horribly wrong.
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    Why do people keep posting 3dmark studded? I already said the scores will disappoint since shader count is lower. But gaming performance is a different story

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    Something has to be wrong.. look at this Compute score. That's no better than 2x5770


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    Quote Originally Posted by oztopher View Post
    man... I don't think i've ever used my keyboard's f5 key as much as i've used today

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    Well Gibbo says 6970 competes with GTX580 and is priced accordingly.Similar goes for 6950 and 570. And this guy has payed a lot of $$$$ in order to get healthy stock of those cards(meaning he has the cards,he has the hard numbers and knows how each performs).

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    When two-three syntetic benches show the same thing, the truth isn't far away even in games...The price is the key...
    Still considering the biger die size, the 2gb of memory, the prices i don't think that can be very low...
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    Although these benches and everything is a nice sneak peak, I won't draw any conclusions until actually release, just hold your horses off for a little bit longer guys.
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