AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

**SpuTnicK** · 12-10-2010, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Google translate

Accordingly, the graphics card is not expected to go with 1920 stream processors, but only with 1,536 pieces with a new shader design at the start. As a result, a different number of processors in the HD 6990, which is now 3072. Whether this statement is true, we can not not tell you. But will the HD 6990 XT consist of two Cayman-chip whose clock rates are on Cayman Pro level because graphics cards can not consume more than 300W. The chip is, therefore, not 300W, as expected, but consume up to 250W. However, this is really the maximum consumption, which is probably achieved through changes to the card itself or by the feature PowerTune. This approach has been dürchgeführt even with the GTX580, so they spent far more from electricity.

Asked that the "Typical gaming power" AMD are at 190W. That is, the average consumption is playing decent 190W. In idle the card itself should treat only 20W. The core clock of 880MHz to overclock graphics card is to be maintained at the 2GB GDDR5 RAM with large effective rich 5.500MHz. Overall, the chip features an incredible 2.64 billion transistors and is 15% smaller than the GTX580. But the chip size, compared 30% smaller and thus cheaper to produce. Next will be less complex than the Cayman GTX series, which AMD would get out through a lower price. There are $ 70 - $ 80 less than the GTX580 in conversation. The final EIA prices we are not yet ready, so we can only refer to first listings. Early listings from France certify the HD 6970 at a price of about € 496 while the sister model will cost € 398.

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**duploxxx** · 12-10-2010, 06:03 AM

oh what a thread, if it doesn't have this then i am disapointed..., if A then B, if not B the C..., NV this, PR that

always something to complain about. when 68xx series launched 101 people comparing with 58xx series while clearly mentioned different range, now this time all over again compare of 6970 vs 5970 hey next round of garbage threads and comments

Originally Posted by cold2010

[IMG]http://img820.imageshack.us/img820

http://itbbs.pconline.com.cn/diy/12257812.html

I have seen that performance result also, it is true, but they forgot to set the slider to the middle, this will enable the turbo boost function and will move the power from 190W to 225W and therefore boost performance by another 20%

providing a result of 1968 in futurmark11 just ahead of the 580 by 0.01%, When 590 will launch (or 680-780 whatever nv will call it) they have to move the slider to the 3th position which will have another boost towards 250W and again marginally faster then the nv card, but this will remain under nda untill nv releases such card, so don't tell anyone.

pls post that into that forum, can't write such language

**flyck** · 12-10-2010, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by SpuTnicK

So its HD6950 vs. GTX480 and HD6970 vs. GTX570, I guess.

GTX480 and GTX570 have the same performance

**eric66** · 12-10-2010, 06:06 AM

this thread is like huge chaos lol i can't wait for it to end ....

**mrcmtl** · 12-10-2010, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by eric66

this thread is like huge chaos lol i can't wait for it to end ....

No, keep going. We want more posts here than Antilles has SPs.

**Oztopher** · 12-10-2010, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by flyck

GTX480 and GTX570 have the same performance

Indeed. AFAIK every other benchmarks puts them equal, apart from vantage...

IF the SP's for the 6970 are 1536 VLIW4, then that puts it at 1920 SP VLIW5 performance. When comparing against the 6870, that's 70% more shader power with god knows what other enhancments. That's my optimistic outlook anyway.

**cold2010** · 12-10-2010, 06:38 AM

maybe 1920 OR 1792 OR 1600

http://www.xfastest.com/viewthread.p...age%3D1&page=1

**Andi64** · 12-10-2010, 06:42 AM

I really doubt that GPU-Z is aware of HD6900 SP count, so I don't think it matters what it recognizes.
Wizzard are you there? :P

**Oztopher** · 12-10-2010, 06:42 AM

That 1600 SP screenshot i can imagine being where gpuz can't recognise the specs yet. But we'll see.

**Nintendork** · 12-10-2010, 06:44 AM

If not fake, that shows 1792. Anyway GPU-Z is just a database except for core/mem frequency.

**duploxxx** · 12-10-2010, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Nintendork

If not fake, that shows 1792. Anyway GPU-Z is just a database except for core/mem frequency.

rops is a 2 shaders can't be a 2 it can only be a 0 if you look closer, i say fake and just OCéd memory 5870

same rops, same shaders, almost same texture and pixel fillrate which could be a bit off due to OC changes

**SpuTnicK** · 12-10-2010, 06:59 AM

the slide of HD6900 performance is fake too:

**Nintendork** · 12-10-2010, 07:01 AM

OMG this is better than April Fools.

**Particle** · 12-10-2010, 07:02 AM

I don't understand people complaining about frequencies or shader counts when they're not directly comparable with previous designs. You really won't know how well it does until we get to play with the hardware ourselves, but we do know that one new shader is faster than one old shader at the same frequency. Having about the same number of these new, improved shaders as the previous generation isn't a big deal so long as they perform well. This generation also isn't supposed to be a major redesign, so I'm not sure what you guys were expecting. I think we've seen really good progress versus what we were promised initially with just some back-end changes but largely unchanged logic.

I for one welcome the new (and usable) 2GB standard, faster shaders, and faster memory.

If you guys can't handle it, don't buy one. There's no need to complain so much. In a free market, it's that simple to speak with your wallet. You don't even have to make that decision based on any legitimate reasoning if you don't want to. You could decide that since you didn't win the lottery today it's not a good enough product. It's your choice.

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Regarding GPU-Z. Guys, the program doesn't detect how many shaders are in there. It only tells you what is built into the program for a given hardware ID. You're only seeing whatever speculative number Wizzard has programmed in there.

**Iconyu** · 12-10-2010, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Nintendork

OMG this is better than April Fools.

Yeah we're getting played hard, that's why I decided to stfu a long time ago. Nothing for weeks and then a flood of conflicting information a couple of days before the end?

**Pantsu** · 12-10-2010, 07:16 AM

I'm beginning to believe AMD has sent out some cards with less SPs to mix up the leaks, just like with the 6800 series. Not that it really matters that much how many SPs the cards have when we don't know how they relate to performance with the new architecture. At the moment the only things I might believe is the 190W typical load and that Powertune switch that cranks it up to 250W.

Only a few days left, it feels like Christmas already! I hope AMD has some nice gifts for us.

**Loque** · 12-10-2010, 07:18 AM

taken on beyond3D forums ..

So this guy explain about the leaked slides :

its one way to leak information without getting punish..

ASUS this time really piss nVidia off a lot, they leak out GTX 580 way too early than it should be, that is why you don't see much ASUS GTX 580 in market, or almost none exist when launch.

probably because what ASUS did, AMD is holding back really hard..
They haven't give out a working driver until recently, even though there are couple sample out there couple weeks ago, but doesn't work correctly or run correctly without crashing. That is why you didn't see any information until now.

The funny thing right now is AMD is sending out wrong PDF to the reviewers, and couple 6970 that is crippled SP running.

They really trying to hide stuff this time...

PS: Magickarp is the one who told me all these and left with happy face. Don't ask for more information, this is all I can tell for now, everything should be lift soon since NDA is ending very soon...

So well where's the truth... untill the end of NDA and launch i believe we are about to speculate blindless.

**Lanek** · 12-10-2010, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by SpuTnicK

the slide of HD6900 performance is fake too:

Increase gamma /global around the "Q4 product " and you will find some funny thing too, then increase contrast or saturation to hell, and watch the lines around the central square ..

**zalbard** · 12-10-2010, 07:21 AM

If they are hiding something, I believe it should be worth hiding. So let's stay tuned, guys and gals!

**Picao84** · 12-10-2010, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by zalbard

If they are hiding something, I believe it should be worth hiding. So let's stay tuned, guys and gals!

Hehehehehe, good job on raising expectations even more

**Loque** · 12-10-2010, 07:52 AM

http://translate.googleusercontent.c...sRKE7qEkZ7zR_Q

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**SpuTnicK** · 12-10-2010, 07:58 AM

@Loque
Don't use direct link to images located on hosts provided by some forums or sites

**iMacmatician** · 12-10-2010, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by Loque

http://translate.googleusercontent.c...sRKE7qEkZ7zR_Q

LMAO, that has to be real!!

**generics_user** · 12-10-2010, 08:07 AM

this thread is epic

AMD is way too quiet and i still can't believe how they manage to hide everything that long, i mean there have to be thousands of cards out there already and still nothing trustable at all leaked yet

this is even worse than RV770 and cypress were and they had almost no information out before launch (apart from coolers and part of the featureset)

**ColonelCain** · 12-10-2010, 08:11 AM

Someone should timeline all of the different rumors that there have been. It would be epic.

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