Pre-release price slips are usually a lot higher than what they actually end up selling for. It's like this is you guys' first GPU launch or something. C'mon, it's the same crap every time.
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This is from the largest swedish computer site and thier "close source to AMD" is saying that 6950 will have 1440 streamprocessors. I still think 1536 SP count is the right one. And i might add that they were wrong about the 6870/6850 specs 1 week before launch and that was from the same "close source".
So far originally Fudzilla reporting the 1536. Now we have Edison from Chiphell and that site showing a lower SP count than other rumors. The though of Fudzilla actually being right this time kinda threw up in my mouth a little.
As someone said a page ago, Neliz from beyond3d confirmed it.
True or False?
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=5693
If this is true, we should be trusting that forest guy a lot more, because he leaked those specs a month and a half ago. Also I think SKYMTL might be vindicated to some extent telling you guys to real back your expectations a bit and you guys just hammered on him when he was just trying to do you guys a favor.
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That tree-guy was also one of the first with a Juniper card as well so I believe he could be trusted (he posted a picture of it).
U guys know that i was talking about the 6950 right? So lets say 6950 has these 1440 SP and 6970 has 1536, so why does this Faud guy keep saying its a "big hot chip". If 6970 is below 1600 SP count and using 4vliw wich saves 10% chip space, then i can not see why 6970 would be any bigger than 5870. These things just confuses me , were STILL on 40nm here.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=4519
According to this guy who seems to have the cards way before hand and said the 6970 has 1536 shaders, we can inference the 6950 might have 1408 shaders.
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1408 is it
On another note for AMD buyers, doesn't the 5870 possibly sound like the much better buy at $250 now?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...x=0&y=0&Page=1
I think unless cayman xt ends up 60% faster than the 5870, it is currently the way better buy and it would be better to buy them before they went out of stock if your still on 3870 or maybe 4870.
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I always say that if people aren't worried about power/heat, the last gen's high end cards when EOL are a pretty good deal for the budget conscious
Too bad 5850's are still hovering $200 cause they're still a killer card
normally I would agree but in the case of the 5870 it's a toss up based on the games you play. the 6870 tends to be pretty close when Tesselation is involved so I would say it is a better future choice over the 5870 which has lackluster tess performance.
as for the 1536sp's for 6970... that would be plain disappointing... considering that would put both the 6970 and 6950 with LESS shaders then the 5870 and 5850, yes the performance per shader is vastly better but by how much with lower clocks...
but come to think about it the same thing happened with the 6870, the consensus and rumors for the longest time were that it had 1280 shaders and it was not till a few days before the launch that we found out it only has 1120. kinda the reverse of the 4870 effect.
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A Dual Front End (Double Tessellation Units), 24 SIMDs with 16 more TMUs and beefed up ROPs will add to the die size even if they save 10% from shaders with the new VLIW-4 architecture.
IMO Cayman is designed with DX-11 and Tessellation in mind and by keeping the small die size philosophy.
20% more performance than Cypress in DX-9/10 and 2x performance in DX-11 Tessellation with a small die size and at the same lithography (40nm) is a nice engineering accomplishment![]()
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i think that the 1920SP rumor was born with the 384 SIMDs
people simply took 384SIMD*5D and ended up with 1920SPs and this number just stayed in the rumor mill even though it was 384 SIMD*4D
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Clocks are higher - 880 and 800 vs. 850 and 725Originally Posted by '[XC
Plus, it isn't shaders are equivalent - it's actual SIMDs
1536/4 = 384 > 1600/5 = 320
If it takes 1536 shaders to perform better than the GTX 580 then I'm down...
Not only is 384 more than 320, but hasn't there been rumors about improved ROPs aswell?
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