6970 might use the new 2GiB Hynix Ram which provides 2gb with only 8 chips at clock speeds up to 7ghz (220gb/s mem BW on a 256bit interface)
i think that cayman was delayed due to a shortage of this new memory
but as said above this has to be 6950 due to a cut down VR and 2x6pin connectors
Last edited by generics_user; 12-04-2010 at 09:31 AM.
Core i7 2600k|HD 6950|8GB RipJawsX|2x 128gb Samsung SSD 830 Raid0|Asus Sabertooth P67
Seasonic X-560|Corsair 650D|2x WD Red 3TB Raid1|WD Green 3TB|Asus Xonar Essence STX
Core i3 2100|HD 7770|8GB RipJawsX|128gb Samsung SSD 830|Asrock Z77 Pro4-M
Bequiet! E9 400W|Fractal Design Arc Mini|3x Hitachi 7k1000.C|Asus Xonar DX
Dell Latitude E6410|Core i7 620m|8gb DDR3|WXGA+ Screen|Nvidia Quadro NVS3100
256gb Samsung PB22-J|Intel Wireless 6300|Sierra Aircard MC8781|WD Scorpio Blue 1TB
Harman Kardon HK1200|Vienna Acoustics Brandnew|AKG K240 Monitor 600ohm|Sony CDP 228ESD
ATI ( AMD now ) have start use Vapor chamber since 2900XTX ... i know all average and high end models use it .. ( i don't say it's effective as the new vapor chamber cooler used on 580) just it use vapor chamber ..
Now you see the pipes coolers, when they are designed well ( 3th party coolers ) are more effective .. but they cost a bit much of the standard vapor chambers coolers.
for last rumors, don't forget there's 2 models of 6950, one use only 1gb and the second models use 2gb ... as the 6970 .. ( marketing.... i believe they put 1 cfx connectores only on the little brother and 2 on the 6950 2gb)
Last edited by Lanek; 12-04-2010 at 09:35 AM.
CPU: - I7 4930K (EK Supremacy )
GPU: - 2x AMD HD7970 flashed GHZ bios ( EK Acetal Nickel Waterblock H2o)
Motherboard: Asus x79 Deluxe
RAM: G-skill Ares C9 2133mhz 16GB
Main Storage: Samsung 840EVO 500GB / 2x Crucial RealSSD C300 Raid0
2500k @ 4900mhz - Asus Maxiums IV Gene Z - Swiftech Apogee LP
GTX 680 @ +170 (1267mhz) / +300 (3305mhz) - EK 680 FC EN/Acteal
Swiftech MCR320 Drive @ 1300rpms - 3x GT 1850s @ 1150rpms
XS Build Log for: My Latest Custom Case
The rumours all point to this chip being amazing, dire or somewhere in between. Roll on release day...
Where is your proof? AMD seems to think otherwise
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1462/1/
edit: Here's a picture of the 2900 XT cooler"We first started shipping with Vapour Chamber coolers with the ATI Radeon HD 2900 series on products and have continued to develop them on every generation since (with patents pending); we will have further refinements on upcoming GPU’s. With regards to variable fan controllers it is hard to see what is new here – boards with 3 or 4 pin fan headers should have fan control anyway; with the ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series and on we moved from external controllers to fully programmable system on the GPU’s own internal microcontroller; this enable a fine grained, continuously variable control that handles multiple fan curves which change according to the temp ranges you are dealing with." - AMD North America PR
Last edited by safan80; 12-04-2010 at 07:21 PM.
Asus Z9PE-D8 WS with 64GB of registered ECC ram.|Dell 30" LCD 3008wfp:7970 video card
LSI series raid controller
SSDs: Crucial C300 256GB
Standard drives: Seagate ST32000641AS & WD 1TB black
OSes: Linux and Windows x64
hope it lives up to the hype.
Intel i7 3770K @ 4.5ghz
Asus P8Z77-V
8GB Crucial 1866Mhz CL9
AMD Sapphire Radeon HD 6970
Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB
2x WD Raptor X
Enermax Galaxy 1000W DXX
NEC LCD2690WUXi
Yamaha RX-V667 Receiver
Monitor Audio Vector 5.1
Last edited by Lanek; 12-04-2010 at 07:24 PM.
CPU: - I7 4930K (EK Supremacy )
GPU: - 2x AMD HD7970 flashed GHZ bios ( EK Acetal Nickel Waterblock H2o)
Motherboard: Asus x79 Deluxe
RAM: G-skill Ares C9 2133mhz 16GB
Main Storage: Samsung 840EVO 500GB / 2x Crucial RealSSD C300 Raid0
Core i7 920@ 4.66ghz(H2O)
6gb OCZ platinum
4870x2 + 4890 in Trifire
2*640 WD Blacks
750GB Seagate.
they use an advanced design, more efficient... but ATI use a similar vapor chamber ( but less efficient, and cheaper design on standard cooler )
CPU: - I7 4930K (EK Supremacy )
GPU: - 2x AMD HD7970 flashed GHZ bios ( EK Acetal Nickel Waterblock H2o)
Motherboard: Asus x79 Deluxe
RAM: G-skill Ares C9 2133mhz 16GB
Main Storage: Samsung 840EVO 500GB / 2x Crucial RealSSD C300 Raid0
this statement is wrong...
ati has exactly the same vapor chamber on its 5970 card, nvidia just failed ocmpletely with the 480 cooler and that's why they make such a big deal out of the 580 cooler
Techpowerup 5970 cooler
Difference to NV? Ati paints the underside of the vapor chamber...
Core i7 2600k|HD 6950|8GB RipJawsX|2x 128gb Samsung SSD 830 Raid0|Asus Sabertooth P67
Seasonic X-560|Corsair 650D|2x WD Red 3TB Raid1|WD Green 3TB|Asus Xonar Essence STX
Core i3 2100|HD 7770|8GB RipJawsX|128gb Samsung SSD 830|Asrock Z77 Pro4-M
Bequiet! E9 400W|Fractal Design Arc Mini|3x Hitachi 7k1000.C|Asus Xonar DX
Dell Latitude E6410|Core i7 620m|8gb DDR3|WXGA+ Screen|Nvidia Quadro NVS3100
256gb Samsung PB22-J|Intel Wireless 6300|Sierra Aircard MC8781|WD Scorpio Blue 1TB
Harman Kardon HK1200|Vienna Acoustics Brandnew|AKG K240 Monitor 600ohm|Sony CDP 228ESD
i respond about the Sapphire Vapor X, not against the 580 .. the Sapphire one is more advanced of the one used by ATI(AMD) ... nothing to do with the 580 ..
About Nvidia, it's not a question of fail or not, they wanted to show to the public they have work on the bad aspect of the 480 ( hot, power hungry ) and they have hype their solution.
from a marketing point of view, it's a good move to show it.
Last edited by Lanek; 12-04-2010 at 08:38 PM.
CPU: - I7 4930K (EK Supremacy )
GPU: - 2x AMD HD7970 flashed GHZ bios ( EK Acetal Nickel Waterblock H2o)
Motherboard: Asus x79 Deluxe
RAM: G-skill Ares C9 2133mhz 16GB
Main Storage: Samsung 840EVO 500GB / 2x Crucial RealSSD C300 Raid0
Correct statement bolded.
The standard ATI heatsinks are not vapor chamber design. Anyone with access to a PC can google to see the stock ATi heatsink designs for each card.
Here's the 4870 and 4890's (thanks to eastcoasthandle for pics) for example
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...890/4870HS.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...890/4890HS.jpg
All along the watchtower the watchmen watch the eternal return.
5970 uses vapour chamber, just to say. ATI/AMD uses vapour chamber on only their very hot cards. Hell, 4870X2 wasn't vapour chamber. 5970 required it.
Not sure about the 2900XT though. They are not marketing gimmicks. If they are, AMD wouldn't have used it themselves on stock design. Nor nvidia.
While I agree with your first point, that leads me to ask you...Are you sure about (the whole of) your second?
There's a reason he didn't post that pic, nor use it as an example.
Last edited by turtle; 12-05-2010 at 12:22 AM. Reason: I apparently lack the ability to correctly parenthesize...or spell....
That is all.
Peace and love.
Higher density but only 6Gbps... there was no delay with the memory, they have had these ICs available since before Barts launch, just no reason to use them on a midrange product.
Edit- Should be some solid leaks in the next couple of days, too many cards in the wild now.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
I like vapor chamber. To say every reference ATi product since the 2900XT used it, is blatantly incorrect.
Thats a Sapphire card (and not even their regular model), not an ATi reference. I do also own a Sapphire 4870X2 by the way, no vapor chamber on it at all.
All along the watchtower the watchmen watch the eternal return.
I was under the impression that looks a lot like a vapor change cooler, as does the one on R600. Of course you're right about the other stock coolers, it's not at all on 4800 single GPU series, or any others for that matter other than 5970. I figured they were deployed by AMD in certain scenarios given the use on 2900XT, 5970, and I thought 4870x2; the only products that needed to dissipate that much heat per core/area (5970 even being overkill at stock clocks...It's obviously there because most will increase the voltages from 5850 to 5870 levels voiding PCIe spec). Using it only on one core does make some sense in 4870x2's scenario, given the need for a fan and sink anyway, and it being the highest load power draw for a stock card ever made.Originally Posted by W1zzard, first page of the review
Yours has two flat sinks? Huh. Perhaps you have a non-ref model (with twin fans or something)? I was always under the impression it was the case for the stock cooler given reviews show one GPU with significantly lower temp, Theo declaring it so (as credible or incredible as he may be) and it was right when AMD made their announcement about partnership with Celsia on vc cooler options, etc.
Not worth a fight though, amigo...and this is the wrong thread for that anyway.![]()
Last edited by turtle; 12-05-2010 at 01:56 AM. Reason: fleshed out reasoning over a few edit...fixed spelling
That is all.
Peace and love.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...1&postcount=38
"Good to know there will be plenty stock of the 6970. For those thinking will the 6970 be faster than a 580, I got news for you, how does 30-40% faster at stock sound."
Well that guy have 7k posts, so i don't think he is too stupid to give BS info. Also he said that he have friend in AMD that gave his this info...
Ofc its a bit bully, but who knows... 30-40% faster then 580 sounds really epicOriginally Posted by RavenXXX2
It's a guy that works for a very well respected AMD AIB, he has 6950/70 samples.
Yeah I said wouldn't but that kind of performance is just too much to ignore.![]()
Game Rig:
Intel Core i7 920 (3.0Ghz) || EVGA X58 Classified (E760)|| 3x2 Gb A-DATA 1333Mhz Triple Channel + 3x2 Gb Patriot 1333Mhz Triple Channel || WD500GB + WD750GB + Hitachi 1TB || PowerColor Ati Radeon 5850 1024MB GDDR5 CrossFireX|| Chieftec 1020W || Acer 24" P243 (1920 x 1200) || Razer Copperhead Blue || Microsoft Reclusa || SteelSeries Seberia 7.1 || CoolerMaster CosmoS
Water cooling:
WC HeatKiller 3.0 || 2x 120mm Koolance || Koolance RP-980BK || Koolance nozzles
Bookmarks