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    The frightening and saddening thing about this is that it's not as 'off base' as it sounds.

    Systems integration IS the next big thing, and the iPhone and iPad are the first 'real' signs of that, with more to come. As the world becomes smaller and the toys follow suit, the PC towers may see their day come and go. That means Intel, AMD and any other chip maker unable to get into that market will be left by the wayside.

    I'm guilty of it myself, having switched to a laptop years ago. If something like an iPad could do what I wanted, I'd use that and my Laptop would collect dust.

    One day, a fully integrated PC WILL be able to do that, without discrete processors. If there were an iPad available that would play Crysis (etc.) there would be no need for a tower, meaning no need for buying GPUs, CPUs, etc.

    How far are we from that day? It's undeniable that eventually systems integration will obliterate everything else. Whether that means ARM will kill Intel or any other manufacturer, well I doubt that. The guys running both AMD and Intel see it coming too, and are likely working R&D in that direction.

    For me, though, the part that I'll miss is the 'Xtreme' part of it. I find it hard to imagine an LN2 stack or a Cascade cooler strapped to an iPad. I think I'd miss that more than anything else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Mole View Post
    The frightening and saddening thing about this is that it's not as 'off base' as it sounds.

    Systems integration IS the next big thing, and the iPhone and iPad are the first 'real' signs of that, with more to come. As the world becomes smaller and the toys follow suit, the PC towers may see their day come and go. That means Intel, AMD and any other chip maker unable to get into that market will be left by the wayside.

    I'm guilty of it myself, having switched to a laptop years ago. If something like an iPad could do what I wanted, I'd use that and my Laptop would collect dust.

    One day, a fully integrated PC WILL be able to do that, without discrete processors. If there were an iPad available that would play Crysis (etc.) there would be no need for a tower, meaning no need for buying GPUs, CPUs, etc.

    How far are we from that day? It's undeniable that eventually systems integration will obliterate everything else. Whether that means ARM will kill Intel or any other manufacturer, well I doubt that. The guys running both AMD and Intel see it coming too, and are likely working R&D in that direction.

    For me, though, the part that I'll miss is the 'Xtreme' part of it. I find it hard to imagine an LN2 stack or a Cascade cooler strapped to an iPad. I think I'd miss that more than anything else.


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    crysis on a touch screen 11 inch screen or whatever lols.

    Maybe with a built in projector and holographic interface yeah. But I guess in principle you're right, more people watch videos on the PC's/laptops/tablets these days. But that doesn't mean that cinema is dead either.

    It's more just that people want something small, with good battery life, with random apps that can social network and play farmville. Some of us still need to work. Spending 15 minutes typing this out with a couple of fingers isn't my ideal for sure.

    So i think for now, high performance computing is still safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Mole View Post
    The frightening and saddening thing about this is that it's not as 'off base' as it sounds.

    Systems integration IS the next big thing, and the iPhone and iPad are the first 'real' signs of that, with more to come. As the world becomes smaller and the toys follow suit, the PC towers may see their day come and go. That means Intel, AMD and any other chip maker unable to get into that market will be left by the wayside.

    I'm guilty of it myself, having switched to a laptop years ago. If something like an iPad could do what I wanted, I'd use that and my Laptop would collect dust.

    One day, a fully integrated PC WILL be able to do that, without discrete processors. If there were an iPad available that would play Crysis (etc.) there would be no need for a tower, meaning no need for buying GPUs, CPUs, etc.

    How far are we from that day? It's undeniable that eventually systems integration will obliterate everything else. Whether that means ARM will kill Intel or any other manufacturer, well I doubt that. The guys running both AMD and Intel see it coming too, and are likely working R&D in that direction.

    For me, though, the part that I'll miss is the 'Xtreme' part of it. I find it hard to imagine an LN2 stack or a Cascade cooler strapped to an iPad. I think I'd miss that more than anything else.


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    I agree with you, and also with the ARM CEO, however I dread it as well. There is less need for the mass consumer to purchase a "more powerful" computer these days. With the exception of servers and the few individuals that do some hardcore rendering or number crunching, the vast majority use their computers to web browse(read up the latest news/gossip, check email, go on social networks, and maybe run some basic productivity software), most of this can be done on the go with a less powerful machine(smartphones, tablets, etc.) While gaming is probably dominated by consoles(most people I know don't want to bother with building their own monster rigs and update drivers, etc. they just want to press the power button and go).


    For me, I totally agree with you, I will miss the "xtreme" aspect of the cpu. The feeling of having a mini "super-computer" in your possession to do whatever you choose to do with it(crunching, gaming, or serving).

    Hopefully... the cpu wars will continue on for longer than it should...
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    (retired)Opteron 146 (939) CAB2E 0540
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    -Ram: Mushkin High Performance blue, 2gigs(2X1gig kit) PC3200 991434
    -Hard drive: Seagate 400GB Barracuda SATA HD 7200.10(AS noisey model)
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