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[sierra_bound]

2,151 team members. One left, one joined.

Welcome to Oztopher.

[Oztopher]

Cheers.

I've got 6 (nearly 7) projects ready to report, how long does it normally take before it sends off?

[sierra_bound]

Welcome. It depends on how big your work unit cache is. You can manually send in the completed units. Go to the Projects tab on the BOINC Manager and hit Update.

[sierra_bound]

2,153 team members. A former member rejoined, plus we have a new member.

Welcome to winstontj.

[Oztopher]

I see thanks.

[retro77]

I see thanks.

Also you can change the frequency of which your hosts update by going into My Grid, then Device manage, Then Device Profiles. Down close to the bottom there is "Workunit Cache Settings". Change the "Connect to network about every" to what you want. I have 0.1 days on mine. And I also have it cache 3 or 4 days of work units. That way if the servers are offline, you're still crunching. When they come back online, upload the completed WU and you have no down time...hopefully!

[winstontj]

I just joined last night. Not sure yet how the metrics will come across or when I'll be able to see any progress. I have about 8 machines running BOINC right now. Over the next week or so I'll scale it up to 15ish boxes running BOINC for 12++ hours a day. I have no idea how many tasks/jobs/hours/points that will total.

I've got a ton of questions but I think I'll lurk a bit first before I start asking.

Only question I have at the moment is do any of you write off part of your equipment or electricity for tax purposes? I'm pretty sure I'm going to see a hefty increase in power consumption - just not sure how many dollars that will translate to.

[sierra_bound]

Welcome to the team. The tax issue has been discussed a number of times. I don't think anyone on our team has figured out a way to do it. If the machines you're running are in an office, there might be a way to write the cost off as a business expense. But you would need to talk to a tax expert about it. I've heard of someone who formed his own charity group and reportedly got a tax break. But that was not a member of this team.

[winstontj]

Welcome to the team. The tax issue has been discussed a number of times. I don't think anyone on our team has figured out a way to do it. If the machines you're running are in an office, there might be a way to write the cost off as a business expense. But you would need to talk to a tax expert about it. I've heard of someone who formed his own charity group and reportedly got a tax break. But that was not a member of this team.

Thanks. I think I'll just go out on a limb and write off whatever amount my wife starts yelling about each month.

At the office and in the data center I don't pay for electric so I'm not worried about that - but my bill is already $250/month at home, if it rises up to $400/month she'll go off the deep end .

Does it matter what jobs/tasks I signed up for? I just checked them all and let it do its thing.

[Movieman]

I just joined last night. Not sure yet how the metrics will come across or when I'll be able to see any progress. I have about 8 machines running BOINC right now. Over the next week or so I'll scale it up to 15ish boxes running BOINC for 12++ hours a day. I have no idea how many tasks/jobs/hours/points that will total.

I've got a ton of questions but I think I'll lurk a bit first before I start asking.

Only question I have at the moment is do any of you write off part of your equipment or electricity for tax purposes? I'm pretty sure I'm going to see a hefty increase in power consumption - just not sure how many dollars that will translate to.

Hello? Your ears back to normal yet?
I would think that if in an office you'd just include the elec as part of your business costs just as you normally would.
Just that now they will be a tad higher.
Welcome to the team.

[sierra_bound]

Thanks. I think I'll just go out on a limb and write off whatever amount my wife starts yelling about each month.

At the office and in the data center I don't pay for electric so I'm not worried about that - but my bill is already $250/month at home, if it rises up to $400/month she'll go off the deep end .

Does it matter what jobs/tasks I signed up for? I just checked them all and let it do its thing.

Yes, my home electricity bills are quite high ($250-$330 a month).

Be careful on home-related tax write-offs. The guy who does my taxes says a lot of home office deductions, in particular, trip alarm bells at the IRS.

[Movieman]

I see a potential pie thief emerging from the shadows..

[winstontj]

sorry to clutter up this thread with questions - feel free to move over to a new thread or more appropriate place.

Can you guys answer for me - why do my non-hyperthreadding CPUs seem to peg at 100% and sit while the hyperthreadding CPUs just bounce around like crazy from 10% to 99% on task manager?

Thx.

dual x5450 box:



dual w5580 box:



EDIT:
I am running ONLY WCG/BOINC on the x5450 box and running a few other applications on the x5580 box if it matters. When I run other apps on the x5450 box it still stays steady though.

[Nikolasz]

In advanced--->Settings you got only use 25% of your processors ?

[sRHunt3r]

sorry to clutter up this thread with questions - feel free to move over to a new thread or more appropriate place.

Can you guys answer for me - why do my non-hyperthreadding CPUs seem to peg at 100% and sit while the hyperthreadding CPUs just bounce around like crazy from 10% to 99% on task manager?

Thx.

dual x5450 box:



dual w5580 box:



EDIT:
I am running ONLY WCG/BOINC on the x5450 box and running a few other applications on the x5580 box if it matters. When I run other apps on the x5450 box it still stays steady though.

Winstontj, you may need to log into the WCG website and check what your profile has listed for the number of cpu's. I know for my sr-2 rig I had to bump it up from 12 to 24 cores

[Movieman]

sorry to clutter up this thread with questions - feel free to move over to a new thread or more appropriate place.

Can you guys answer for me - why do my non-hyperthreadding CPUs seem to peg at 100% and sit while the hyperthreadding CPUs just bounce around like crazy from 10% to 99% on task manager?

Thx.

dual x5450 box:



dual w5580 box:



EDIT:
I am running ONLY WCG/BOINC on the x5450 box and running a few other applications on the x5580 box if it matters. When I run other apps on the x5450 box it still stays steady though.

Time for another call..
Go into boinc manager to your WCG page to device profiles and make sure that in the block for "Use at most" X processorsset it to 24 as that is the most you will use.
Then there is also a box where it says if cpu usage exceeds 25% boinc will stop.
Ikill that too.
What you need to do really is go and create a custom profile and set each setting to what suits you.
Takes a few minutes to do and then when done you can use that profile for all the machines

[winstontj]

I have two dual w5580 boxes. One is set to use no more than 55% of CPU all the time simply because anything over 55% turns the fans on jet-engine high speed and its annoying. The other dual W5580 box is set to use up to 100% as long as the machine has been idle for more than 3 minutes. The dual 5450 boxes are the same, if idle > 3min, take 100% CPU.

All the network usage and connectivity stuff is set to zero since they are always connected to fast internet. When I log into the boxes that are set to use only if idle, they stop right away and CPU usage goes to minimal. I guess I'll play around with it and see what happens. I think because I'm new all my deadlines are set for 11/21 so it seems like now is the time to play around and get things setup properly.

Thx for the help so far.

[Movieman]

I have two dual w5580 boxes. One is set to use no more than 55% of CPU all the time simply because anything over 55% turns the fans on jet-engine high speed and its annoying. The other dual W5580 box is set to use up to 100% as long as the machine has been idle for more than 3 minutes. The dual 5450 boxes are the same, if idle > 3min, take 100% CPU.

All the network usage and connectivity stuff is set to zero since they are always connected to fast internet. When I log into the boxes that are set to use only if idle, they stop right away and CPU usage goes to minimal. I guess I'll play around with it and see what happens. I think because I'm new all my deadlines are set for 11/21 so it seems like now is the time to play around and get things setup properly.

Thx for the help so far.

Good luck and you know where to reach me if you need help.

[SiGfever]

we get a member discount at beltone for hearing damage caused by Movieman's phone calls.

[Oztopher]

Also you can change the frequency of which your hosts update by going into My Grid, then Device manage, Then Device Profiles. Down close to the bottom there is "Workunit Cache Settings". Change the "Connect to network about every" to what you want. I have 0.1 days on mine. And I also have it cache 3 or 4 days of work units. That way if the servers are offline, you're still crunching. When they come back online, upload the completed WU and you have no down time...hopefully!

Ahh ok, will do that then, thanks - done

[retro77]

Glad to help.

[winstontj]

is the average work/work done for everyone or just the team? My work done is 1092.55 (since about 10am or so) and my average says 225.21. I'm also trying to shift as much of the work over to the bigger machines because one dual W5680 is far superior to two (or maybe three/four??) Q9650 boxes so the power draw will be much less. I just don't know what is ideal and turning them ALL on 24/7 isn't a realistic solution

OK i'm dumping all my n00b questions in here... sorry don't know where else to put it.

OK i have a machine crunching now but I need it for something in a little bit. Is there a way to tell it to finish up the current tasks but not start any new ones?

I'm sure that is a setting I just don't know how/what/where it is.

Thx.

[Oztopher]

I did that this morning in BOINC manager by highlighting all the tasks i didn't want it to take up and suspending them, leaving the current ones crunching. I think u can also tell it to not take up any other new tasks as well, in the projects tab.

[retro77]

On the Project tab, you can tell the client to not accept any new tasks. You can also tell it to suspend. The client automatically throttles back. I've even gamed on my cruncher while it was crunching.

[winstontj]

thx guys, sorry again for all the n00b questions... These dell boxes really throttle up the fans so I'm going to need to turn them off at night so the wife can sleep.